***Why hasn't EA/Black Box made a Snowboarding game with Skate engine?***

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#1 afleury226
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Before you disregard this thread and say SSX, Shawn White Snowboarding or Amped Series please take some time to read this, hopefully someone who can actually give me some insight or pass this along to people who can maybe shed some light on this topic for the gaming community. I understand you make the SSX Series which no doubt is a great, fun, entertaining game, but the Arcade/Tony Hawk like style is old and not realistic enough to hold many end users attention. Gamers who like the Skate series would LOVE an EA/Black Box Snowboarding game. Please note for sales reasons snowboarding itself is more commercialized and media friendly than skateboarding is without a doubt which I explain below. I have some questions about why EA/Black Box the creators of the Skate Series cant use the same engine from Skate 3 to make an EA Shred or Snowboarding, not necessarily the platform of the online community interface and team concept. I know game developers work really hard to make these games but using the already amazing SKATE engine would be a huge shortcut for them to start and build off of, honestly you take out the board flip tricks and add the physics levels of the snowboards different sizes, flex/stiffness and hopefully different brands themselves, then tweaking the engine to incorporate the snow effect/factor (powder, packed powder, groomed, hard pack snow etc.). Yes making the environments would be a lot of work but that is also an upside for not only the companies to have projects but for the employees to get as creative as possible which a sport like snowboarding is amazingly creative. Honestly 2 or 3 resorts would suffice for some free riding then mostly park features everywhere, using the session marker, maybe have a snowmobile, or a map to teleport you quickly to where you want to ride. The real fun would be allowing the end users to have a few different create a park layouts for instance a decently long trail with some steeper parts for speed and they could input the features (rails, boxes, barrels, jumps etc as they like. Or they could have a section called "Street" where they give you 5 or 10 street locations and features (kinked hand rails, down rails, ledges, wall rides and gaps and those could possibly be modified by the end users themselves as well. Third you could do a "Big Air" creator where the user can make a big air jump, step up big air, or even a big air to hip. I think a game like this could have a lot of potential not only for the end users of the game but also for Corporate as well as we know that revenue is the final goal of these games they create. Its already known that snowboarding is more commercialized and media friendly due to it being an Olympic sport and not to mention with Shaun Whites popularity in snowboarding it would only help (I know Shaun White Snowboarding is released but that itself would help EA's sales in general, especially since that game was sub-par at best). So from that alone it would outsell the Skate series maybe even combined. I guarantee it. There are a lot of fans that would like a realistic snowboarding game just like the Skate Series. Why do we always get the same answer to this which is always "Have you tried SSX, Shaun White Snowboarding and Amped 1,2, and 3" (May I add Amped 2 was the most LEGIT snowboarding game to date but still a bit on the glitchy side.) Please respond to this as I would love to get some info on this and who knows maybe a following and people with more ideas to make EA/Black Box at least attempt to think about considering it . I purchase a lot of your games and wouldn't mind seeing EA/Black Box consider this opinion and idea. Just think how impressive would it be to make a game with the same graphics and engine of Skate 3. Thanks hopefully I get some followers.
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It would be skate all over again but just on snow. Also the last time I heard/read skating games weren't selling well anymore. Skating games don't differ much from snowboarding games in terms of gameplay. It'll be a while until someone takes another shot at them.

Not saying I'm against the idea, Skate 3 was an amazing game.

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#3 YewBacca
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I think its because snow boarding does not have as many "tricks" as skateboarding....but that would be awesome, a skate-like snowboarding game. Nice Idea.
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B/C snowboarding only has 1 place you can go- down.

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#5 afleury226
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B/C snowboarding only has 1 place you can go- down.

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Yeah but thats why its called picking your line and thats why they made the SESSION MARKER. So you can session a set up over and over.
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#6 afleury226
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It would be skate all over again but just on snow. Also the last time I heard/read skating games weren't selling well anymore. Skating games don't differ much from snowboarding games in terms of gameplay. It'll be a while until someone takes another shot at them.

Not saying I'm against the idea, Skate 3 was an amazing game.

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Your right, but as I stated snowboarding is more mainstream than skateboarding and if they really stood by the game and marketed it right it could easily sell better than the Skate Series guaranteed.
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#7 afleury226
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I think its because snow boarding does not have as many "tricks" as skateboarding....but that would be awesome, a skate-like snowboarding game. Nice Idea.YewBacca
Yeah but the creativeness would make up for it. Seeing as snowboarders go bigger than skateboarding. All of the features are bigger or can be bigger.
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Oh no!!!! another wall of text. *runs away*
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#9 Enraged_Bannana
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Action sports games just aren't as popular as they used to be, it's quite unfortunate. The music game trend is dying as well, hopefully action sports will come back. I personally want to see some BMX games

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#10 Spellingiscool
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There is no market for a snowboarding game
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#11 der_spudmeister
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There already is a realistic snowboard game with Skate-like controls, it's called Stoked.
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#12 afleury226
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There already is a realistic snowboard game with Skate-like controls, it's called Stoked.der_spudmeister
I know this. I bought it when I had a 360. Its fun only for a little thought because its all Big Mountain Back country riding. I want park features, I want to get creative on the boxes, rails, quarter pipes, bonks, wall rides and kickers. Why does everyone here immediatly think I just want a realistic snowboarding game where you just cruise down a trail? HELL NO! lol Im talking about it being realistically creative like Skate! Park features with competition