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#1 acidic_dude
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I hate XBL because for $50 a year I should not have any trouble playing online with any game unless its my internet connection problem, but right now CoD4 is jacked, and its been messed up the last couple of days, very laggy and long waiting. And guess what, live is either down or jack up more than 99.9% of the time, $50 a year for live is a rip off, I play many other games on my PC or even the PS3, and they do not experience as many problems as XBL and guess what, I am not paying $50 a year. Microsoft should probably think about getting their **** together because im tired of feeling like im being ripped off, oh wait I guess I am getting ripped off, Who stupid Idea was it to make people pay $50 a year for online play, and 1 week early content just because they feel they need to try and make people feel like its worth there $50.

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#2 kozzy1234
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This is not true.. ive had xbox live for over 4 years and this is the first time in close to 5 years that ive had ANY problems with xbox live.

1 problem in 5 years is VERY good IMO.

Sure the last few weeks have had alot of problems, but its not like this happens often.

Xbox live is 100000000 times better then sonys online and thats a fact.

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#3 julian2890
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It's not COD servers the problem, its LIVE. which means each game using live is retarded right now.
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#4 Andrew_Xavier
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Well, XBL does have a ridiculous amount of content compared to PSN (I have both systems, not a "fanboy", also, I dislike the term fanboy),

anyways, I'm having the first problems I've ever had with XBL this week, and I'm assuming it's the post xmas blitz or something, less people working + tons of new sign up will cause trouble on any network, even those $14.95 a month types, like Tabula Rasa has been really odd this week...

realistically, XBL is way more stable than say...World Of Warcraft, and it costs less *shrugs*, and I realize I'm making an odd comparison here, as XBL hosts way more content, but, it's essentially the same thing, a series of networks connected into one that users can access.

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#5 Relived
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If you don't like it don't buy the subscription. It's not like they forced you too and besides I'd gladly put up with XBL right now if I had a 360 that works.
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#6 HELL_RAzOR
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so, i pay for my electricity, but friday night there was a blizzard and the power went out for 4 hours. i pay for it and it dosnt work, an outrage.
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#7 elfraydoh
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and since 50 dollars a year is such a hassle on somebody who can apparently afford an internet connection. what a rough life you must live, how do you find the money to pay the bills?

You're overexaggurating. Xbox live is not down 99.9% of the time. I've had it for about 3 years now and maybe have had a problem when xbox live had not said it was going down for maintanence maybe... a couple of times? Lots of people using xbox live now, it's getting bigger and more people are becoming members. Things like this are bound to happen. Chill out and play a game offline, don't worry you'll get your 50 dollars worth.

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#8 tsylord
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so, i pay for my electricity, but friday night there was a blizzard and the power went out for 4 hours. i pay for it and it dosnt work, an outrage.HELL_RAzOR
lol
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#9 acidic_dude
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If you don't like it don't buy the subscription. It's not like they forced you too and besides I'd gladly put up with XBL right now if I had a 360 that works.Relived
I have to if I want to play online and guess what, I want to play online.
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#10 acidic_dude
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so, i pay for my electricity, but friday night there was a blizzard and the power went out for 4 hours. i pay for it and it dosnt work, an outrage.HELL_RAzOR
But does any of us get electricity for free? NO, many other services are free, you still have to pay for internet connection but services such as steam and PSN are free, and IMO steam is better than XBL and they are actually advancing each and every year unlike XBL.

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#11 Ligerpotumus
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YEs, xbox live does have problems, this is coming from a guy who has been playing on live for months now, i understand them. But give it a while, and when u think about it 50 clams isnt so bad, thats basically buying LOTS of extra content for your games for the price of 10 bux less than 1. Yeah and cod4 is a pain to connect to a match, i have a wireless connection and it sux **** sometimes because their is a thing called NATor something like that that restricted me to connect to matches in cod 4 andhalo 3 , so i have to wire up my console in my office and it gives me a perfect connection, even though i hafta play on such a small tv. ITS ANNOYING but if u find ways around it u have a better time.
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#12 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="Relived"]If you don't like it don't buy the subscription. It's not like they forced you too and besides I'd gladly put up with XBL right now if I had a 360 that works.acidic_dude
I have to if I want to play online and guess what, I want to play online.

well then sit down, stop getting so angry and relize that this is the first time in 5 years that this has happened to xbox live. Its not a regular thing that happens.

Ive had a ps2 and ps3 online and they are HORRIBLE online, so if you really want to play online games then stick with xbox live.

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#13 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="HELL_RAzOR"]so, i pay for my electricity, but friday night there was a blizzard and the power went out for 4 hours. i pay for it and it dosnt work, an outrage.acidic_dude

But does any of us get electricity for free? NO, many other services are free, you still have to pay for internet connection but services such as steam and PSN are free, and IMO steam is better than XBL and they are actually advancing each and every year unlike XBL.

PSN is the worst online ive ever seen, end of thread/

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#14 sk8jim
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WTF are you complaining about!!!! There was a time where you had to invite friends over just to play multiplayer and now you can play with millions, also you can DL trailers, demos, and arcade games which makes XBL great. So just be thankful there is such a thing as online for game consoles.
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#15 Questlove711
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No reason to cry about something you can't fix. Sit back, relax, and watch some movies.. maybe the kind with naked women, that's what I do.
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#16 Ligerpotumus
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O yeah and now im having problems downloading the new halo 3 maps and now its absolutely impossible for whatever reason and when i sign into live on the dashboard all hell breaks loose, sometimes no live features show up on after loading, and sometimes when it did load i tryed downloasding the new maps for the billionth time today and after so long when it finally got to the part where i SHOULD HAVE downloaded it gave me an error code. GOD ****ING DAMMIT! AND I ACTUALLY PAY FOR THIS BULL****.
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#17 Ligerpotumus
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Alright alright alright besides the problems it is in many many ways worth it and even one of my friends who is saying he is so poor says the subscriptionis cheap, and hes not a fanboy
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#19 magic_dragon
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If you DONT like it DONT use it!
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#20 acidic_dude
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[QUOTE="acidic_dude"][QUOTE="Relived"]If you don't like it don't buy the subscription. It's not like they forced you too and besides I'd gladly put up with XBL right now if I had a 360 that works.kozzy1234

I have to if I want to play online and guess what, I want to play online.

well then sit down, stop getting so angry and relize that this is the first time in 5 years that this has happened to xbox live. Its not a regular thing that happens.

Ive had a ps2 and ps3 online and they are HORRIBLE online, so if you really want to play online games then stick with xbox live.

WTF are you complaining about!!!! There was a time where you had to invite friends over just to play multiplayer and now you can play with millions, also you can DL trailers, demos, and arcade games which makes XBL great. So just be thankful there is such a thing as online for game consoles.sk8jim
I do that on my computer for free.
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#21 Relived
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I do that on my computer for free.

Once again, then go play pc

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#22 dejo256
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so, i pay for my electricity, but friday night there was a blizzard and the power went out for 4 hours. i pay for it and it dosnt work, an outrage.HELL_RAzOR

yes but you pay for what you have spent, and i dont know what is the problem with all of these fanboys putting down psn i mean while i had my ps2 online was just as reliable as xbl. For example playing BF2mc we had servers just as good as on original xbox. Not sure about ps3 online capabilities but i still plan on buying it and i doubt is as bad as you guys describe it. I know it wont be as good as xbl but it will still be good.

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#23 acidic_dude
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[QUOTE="acidic_dude"] I do that on my computer for free.Relived

Once again, then go play pc

But I have a 360 and I want to play it online 2, and when they make me pay the $50 to enjoy myself online, then I should not ever have to worry about poor match quality, lag, and long waiting to form a game.
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#24 HatakeKakashi08
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I turned the live downloads/update feature off so that it doesn't take up so much memory. It is an option to only CHOOSE which items you want downloaded onto your console. Another reason I choose to not have things automatically downloaded is the fact that you never know what may or may not have errors or glitches in it. Take the Naruto: Rise of a Ninja game for example, Ubisoft opted to have a free character download for Shikamaru and it ended up causing game freeze so everyone had to uninstall it.
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#25 dejo256
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I turned the live downloads/update feature off so that it doesn't take up so much memory. It is an option to only CHOOSE which items you want downloaded onto your console. Another reason I choose to not have things automatically downloaded is the fact that you never know what may or may not have errors or glitches in it. Take the Naruto: Rise of a Ninja game for example, Ubisoft opted to have a free character download for Shikamaru and it ended up causing game freeze so everyone had to uninstall it. HatakeKakashi08

can you still play games on XBL if its not updated

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#26 HatakeKakashi08
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I can play games on Live when it's running that is
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#27 imperial_agent
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I doubt you have XBL problems "more than 99%" of the time.
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#28 Delta055
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Is that the only thing ps3 fanboys can complain about, 50 dollars a year? The fact remains xboxlive>PS3 network.
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#29 david60639
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I doubt you have XBL problems "more than 99%" of the time. imperial_agent
Exactly, what an absurd thing to say. Throws any credibility you could have had out the window.
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#30 SouL-Tak3R
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I hardly ever have problems, just when they are making it better.

And $50 a year is not much at all. seriously

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#31 acidic_dude
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[QUOTE="imperial_agent"]I doubt you have XBL problems "more than 99%" of the time. david60639
Exactly, what an absurd thing to say. Throws any credibility you could have had out the window.

I never said I have problems with xbl 99% of the time, I said xbl is not working properlly 99.9% of the time and for $50 a year it should be.
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[QUOTE="david60639"][QUOTE="imperial_agent"]I doubt you have XBL problems "more than 99%" of the time. acidic_dude
Exactly, what an absurd thing to say. Throws any credibility you could have had out the window.

I never said I have problems with xbl 99% of the time, I said xbl is not working properlly 99.9% of the time and for $50 a year it should be.

how is it "not working properly 99.9% of the time", and where do you get a numerical model accurate to 3 significant figures? I'd like to see your calculations please.
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I hate XBL because for $50 a year I should not have any trouble playing online with any game unless its my internet connection problem, but right now CoD4 is jacked, and its been messed up the last couple of days, very laggy and long waiting. And guess what, live is either down or jack up more than 99.9% of the time, $50 a year for live is a rip off, I play many other games on my PC or even the PS3, and they do not experience as many problems as XBL and guess what, I am not paying $50 a year. Microsoft should probably think about getting their **** together because im tired of feeling like im being ripped off, oh wait I guess I am getting ripped off, Who stupid Idea was it to make people pay $50 a year for online play, and 1 week early content just because they feel they need to try and make people feel like its worth there $50.

acidic_dude

Dude, you're a tool. Get over yourself, Xbox Live has ONE big server problem in like 4 years and trolls like you start complaining and saying it's the worst service ever. Steam is better? Steam is totally different, it's a method of buying games and browsing servers.. Steam doesn't HOST all those servers. They host the files you download but not the game servers, so it's not even close to the same thing. Besides.. you've already shown your a big enough idiot that none of what you say makes any difference anyway.

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But does any of us get electricity for free? NO, many other services are free, you still have to pay for internet connection but services such as steam and PSN are free, and IMO steam is better than XBL and they are actually advancing each and every year unlike XBL.

acidic_dude

dude, you're an idiot. why do you think microsoft provide us with xbox live? do you think its for fun? out of the goodness of their hearts? microsoft is a business, you realise that right? not a charity. things like xbox live, that need enormous servers, and a huge workforce to keep it running cost a lot of money to run. And just because it's been a bit iffy for a couple of days doesn't mean it sucks.

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#35 hellrazor707
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servers are a very complicated business, and judging by the amount of content and amount of people on xbox live Im surprised that they havent had a problem before. this will likely be fixed in a couple of days and there will be no more problems.
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[QUOTE="acidic_dude"][QUOTE="david60639"][QUOTE="imperial_agent"]I doubt you have XBL problems "more than 99%" of the time. TigerFangRed
Exactly, what an absurd thing to say. Throws any credibility you could have had out the window.

I never said I have problems with xbl 99% of the time, I said xbl is not working properlly 99.9% of the time and for $50 a year it should be.

how is it "not working properly 99.9% of the time", and where do you get a numerical model accurate to 3 significant figures? I'd like to see your calculations please.

He could have technically just got Live for Christmas on and since all the problems have grow since then be correct.

I second Live is a straight rip off. PC gets the same thing for free. PSN is very good. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. You fanfreaks are on Microsofts sack so much it is silly. 99.9% of the time may be an exaggeration but Live should work 100% of the time since similar services are free.

People work. When they have there own personal time they should have no problems using the service they are paying for. Imagine if your internet went out, your cable TV, your cell phone stopped working, your electricity went out exc exc. His complaints are more then acceptable.

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#37 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="david60639"][QUOTE="imperial_agent"]I doubt you have XBL problems "more than 99%" of the time. acidic_dude
Exactly, what an absurd thing to say. Throws any credibility you could have had out the window.

I never said I have problems with xbl 99% of the time, I said xbl is not working properlly 99.9% of the time and for $50 a year it should be.

One week of problems out of 4.5 years of it running PERFEC.. thats pretty damn good.

And i use to play Socom on my ps2 online and that was the worst experience ive ever had, worse lag ive ever had in a game.

PC gaming online or xbox gaming online is the way to go.. not psn.

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#38 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="TigerFangRed"][QUOTE="acidic_dude"][QUOTE="david60639"][QUOTE="imperial_agent"]I doubt you have XBL problems "more than 99%" of the time. Taijiquan

Exactly, what an absurd thing to say. Throws any credibility you could have had out the window.

I never said I have problems with xbl 99% of the time, I said xbl is not working properlly 99.9% of the time and for $50 a year it should be.

how is it "not working properly 99.9% of the time", and where do you get a numerical model accurate to 3 significant figures? I'd like to see your calculations please.

He could have technically just got Live for Christmas on and since all the problems have grow since then be correct.

I second Live is a straight rip off. PC gets the same thing for free. PSN is very good. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. You fanfreaks are on Microsofts sack so much it is silly. 99.9% of the time may be an exaggeration but Live should work 100% of the time since similar services are free.

People work. When they have there own personal time they should have no problems using the service they are paying for. Imagine if your internet went out, your cable TV, your cell phone stopped working, your electricity went out exc exc. His complaints are more then acceptable.

ive played PSN online many times, and its horrible, complete garbage.

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#39 Tigger_908
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i agree my xbl is like that right now to...with the price you pay for it it shuld be worth the money and reliable
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#40 Taijiquan
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servers are a very complicated business, and judging by the amount of content and amount of people on xbox live Im surprised that they havent had a problem before. this will likely be fixed in a couple of days and there will be no more problems.hellrazor707

This crap M$ shoves on to us is P2P. Google it. You think we should pay for this? If they were dedicated servers than I can understand instead of this basement trailer park crap.

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#41 HellRazer360
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I hate XBL because for $50 a year I should not have any trouble playing online with any game unless its my internet connection problem, but right now CoD4 is jacked, and its been messed up the last couple of days, very laggy and long waiting. And guess what, live is either down or jack up more than 99.9% of the time, $50 a year for live is a rip off, I play many other games on my PC or even the PS3, and they do not experience as many problems as XBL and guess what, I am not paying $50 a year. Microsoft should probably think about getting their **** together because im tired of feeling like im being ripped off, oh wait I guess I am getting ripped off, Who stupid Idea was it to make people pay $50 a year for online play, and 1 week early content just because they feel they need to try and make people feel like its worth there $50.

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why i hate you.....you make a worthless mindless topic like this....oh and did i mention that you are mindless to
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#42 hellrazor707
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totally agree. this is capitalism any company can charge any amount of money for any servas .
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#43 KittenNipples
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Ive had LIVE for over 3 years now. This is the first time i have ever had a problem with it. You need to get your facts straight before you come whining to everyone.
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#44 kozzy1234
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Ive had LIVE for over 3 years now. This is the first time i have ever had a problem with it. You need to get your facts straight before you come whining to everyone.KittenNipples

thank you, finally someone else who has had xbox live for a long time.......

This is the first WEEK out of 100+ weeks that its messed up for me.

XBOX LIVE IS NOT LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. This is the first time in my 4+ years with xbox live that its had problems.

I personally think its quite amazing that this is the first time there have been any problems in 4+ years.

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#45 Mage_7
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its beem pretty screwed up since that update

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#46 acidic_dude
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[QUOTE="KittenNipples"]Ive had LIVE for over 3 years now. This is the first time i have ever had a problem with it. You need to get your facts straight before you come whining to everyone.kozzy1234

thank you, finally someone else who has had xbox live for a long time.......

This is the first WEEK out of 100+ weeks that its messed up for me.

XBOX LIVE IS NOT LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. This is the first time in my 4+ years with xbox live that its had problems.

I personally think its quite amazing that this is the first time there have been any problems in 4+ years.

Well I havent posted for a while now and you guys keep posting stuff instead of letting this go away, but Ive had live for 3 1/2 years now and ive had troubles with live before and not because of my internet. With the PS2 I never had any problems online, with PSN I never have any problems either and thats free, and that pretty much is the same thing as live except there is no in game messaging and joining from the dash, so pretty much xbl has you paying $50 a year for ingame messaging and joining games from the dash, thats the only unique features over PSN xbl has and with the PC, the features are superior except the fact that not everyone uses xfire or steam but guess what, if you got friends or you meet someone in a game, its not that hard to tell them about xfire or another program you use.
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#47 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="KittenNipples"]Ive had LIVE for over 3 years now. This is the first time i have ever had a problem with it. You need to get your facts straight before you come whining to everyone.acidic_dude

thank you, finally someone else who has had xbox live for a long time.......

This is the first WEEK out of 100+ weeks that its messed up for me.

XBOX LIVE IS NOT LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. This is the first time in my 4+ years with xbox live that its had problems.

I personally think its quite amazing that this is the first time there have been any problems in 4+ years.

Well I havent posted for a while now and you guys keep posting stuff instead of letting this go away, but Ive had live for 3 1/2 years now and ive had troubles with live before and not because of my internet. With the PS2 I never had any problems online, with PSN I never have any problems either and thats free, and that pretty much is the same thing as live except there is no in game messaging and joining from the dash, so pretty much xbl has you paying $50 a year for ingame messaging and joining games from the dash, thats the only unique features over PSN xbl has and with the PC, the features are superior except the fact that not everyone uses xfire or steam but guess what, if you got friends or you meet someone in a game, its not that hard to tell them about xfire or another program you use.

Well then stop using xbox live, all you do is complain.. and if you really had xbox live for 3 years then you would relize there have never been big problems with the service like there is at the moment.

Like i said above... 4+ years of xbox live and no problems like the current problems, ever.

If you dont like it then leave, dont pay for it and never come back on xbox live again, go enjoy your ps3 online with no games.

I am admitting that there are some serious problems over the last week on xbox live, i am also saying that xbox live has never had problems like this ever before. So why not give them a chance to fix it and then see whats going on?

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#48 Cedmln
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HEy. YOu got what you paid for. Be happy.
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#49 o0HAPPY0o
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I hate XBL because for $50 a year I should not have any trouble playing online with any game unless its my internet connection problem, but right now CoD4 is jacked, and its been messed up the last couple of days, very laggy and long waiting. And guess what, live is either down or jack up more than 99.9% of the time, $50 a year for live is a rip off, I play many other games on my PC or even the PS3, and they do not experience as many problems as XBL and guess what, I am not paying $50 a year. Microsoft should probably think about getting their **** together because im tired of feeling like im being ripped off, oh wait I guess I am getting ripped off, Who stupid Idea was it to make people pay $50 a year for online play, and 1 week early content just because they feel they need to try and make people feel like its worth there $50.

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When PSN has the install base that XBL currently has, (if possible) It too will experience the same tech issues as XBL, but will be worse off because it is free, Sony will have no incentive to fix the problem in a hurry, and also considering the fact that Sony isnt a software company could make the situation even worse! PSN users could be left out in the cold for weeks or even months before the issue isresolved!!! STILL THINK FREE IS BETTER?
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#50 halowpb
Member since 2007 • 259 Posts
how long do you guys think this problem will last.