why is fable 2 better then too human ?

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#1 m_axe9
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ive seen alot of people all the time say fable 2 is so much better but i just have no clue why a game that has a worse story less awsome combat no online play and not even a tenth as deep or as long is better. plus too human has better ai and has 50 enemies onscreen.
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#2 nicknees93
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ive seen alot of people all the time say fable 2 is so much better but i just have no clue why a game that has a worse story less awsome combat no online play and not even a tenth as deep or as long is better. plus too human has better ai and has 50 enemies onscreen.m_axe9
First of all, no one knows which is better since there not out yet. second, fable has a better reputation due to its first game which was amazing.
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#3 popilo
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For a short answer it just is

(this is long and complicated and just ends with the short answer so you don't have to read the long part)

for the long one too human is an unknown title (as in this is the first of its series) and no one has expirienced it yet but fable was a VERY sucessful game so people are familiar with it witch reluting in everyone thinking that it will be better than number 1 thus fable 2 again is just better

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#4 popilo
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For a short answer it just is

(this is long and complicated and just ends with the short answer so you don't have to read the long part)

for the long one too human is an unknown title (as in this is the first of its series) and no one has expirienced it yet but fable was a VERY sucessful game so people are familiar with it witch reluting in everyone thinking that it will be better than number 1 thus fable 2 again is just better

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#5 popilo
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sorry my computer glitched so it made a copy of my reply.
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#6 m_axe9
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ya i hate it when that happens anyway thanks for replying i can see that. but if it helps eternal darkness on the gamecube did get a better score then fable 1.
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#7 osbassgordo
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ive seen alot of people all the time say fable 2 is so much better but i just have no clue why a game that has a worse story less awsome combat no online play and not even a tenth as deep or as long is better. plus too human has better ai and has 50 enemies onscreen.m_axe9

ROFLMAO!!!!

First of all how would you know if it had better combat, depth, longevity, and better AI when you haven't even played the game. Second of all, from what i've seen, Too Human looks just like a generic dungeon crawling game that was originally purposed for the Playstation to be a 4-disc action adventure game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_Human#Development_history but did not have enough funding so Silicon Knights had 8 YEARS TO DEVELOPE THIS GAME AND WHAT HAVE THEY PULLED OUT OF THEIR ARSES??? SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MADE IN 2 YEARS WITH HAVE THE EFFORT THAT THE FABLE 2 TEAM PUT INTO THEIRS. Third of all how can you compare the combat when the two games' comabt styles are completely DIFFERENT!!!! For instance: Too Human has a NO SKILL LOCK ON HACK AND SLASH SYSTEM while Fable 2 is more STRATEGIC.

But anyways, who said Fable 2 was better than Too Human? It doesnt even compare!

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#8 Trickshot771
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[QUOTE="m_axe9"]ive seen alot of people all the time say fable 2 is so much better but i just have no clue why a game that has a worse story less awsome combat no online play and not even a tenth as deep or as long is better. plus too human has better ai and has 50 enemies onscreen.osbassgordo

ROFLMAO!!!!

First of all how would you know if it had better combat, depth, longevity, and better AI when you haven't even played the game. Second of all, from what i've seen, Too Human looks just like a generic dungeon crawling game that was originally purposed for the Playstation to be a 4-disc action adventure game but did not have enough funding so Silicon Knights had 8 YEARS TO DEVELOPE THIS GAME AND WHAT HAVE THEY PULLED OUT OF THEIR ARSES??? SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MADE IN 2 YEARS WITH HAVE THE EFFORT THAT THE FABLE 2 TEAM PUT INTO THEIRS. Third of all how can you compare the combat when the two games' comabt styles are completely DIFFERENT!!!! For instance: Too Human has a NO SKILL LOCK ON HACK AND SLASH SYSTEM while Fable 2 is more STRATEGIC.

But anyways, who said Fable 2 was better than Too Human? It doesnt even compare!

Any person who has played the first fable can say that the combat only requires mashing the attack button and rolling out of the way periodically. How is that strategy?

You can't even DIE in Fable 2. Once your health reaches zero, you either choose to sacrifice experiance, gold, fame, or you can sacrifice nothing and get a ton of scars on you. Looks like it has no challenge either.

At least Too Human is trying to innovate. It's got an original setting (name another RPG with Norse mythology archetypes), and it's got a loot system similar to Diablo 2. That reason alone is why I'm buying it, and two player co-op makes it even better.

I'm buying Fable 2 as well, but I'm not going to like it as much. It's not going to be as good as Peter Molyneux says it is because he likes to exaggerate his games.

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#9 Walker34
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Too human from what i've seen looks really bad. It's a diablo ripoff and a really poorly done one. Diablo is one of my favorite games ever so if I think too human looks bad and i'm not excited about it, that means it probably is. Fable 2 looks really fun imo.
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#10 Trickshot771
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Too human from what i've seen looks really bad. It's a diablo ripoff and a really poorly done one. Diablo is one of my favorite games ever so if I think too human looks bad and i'm not excited about it, that means it probably is. Fable 2 looks really fun imo.Walker34

So...you like one game, therefore you can automatically judge how good a game that's similar to it is without playing it.

Where the hell is the logic in that? Why don't people give games a chance anymore before saying it's not going to be good?

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#11 Walker34
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you're right we won't know until it comes out, but i've seen videos and stuff over at gametrailers and hte voice acting, animations and combat and all the different traits and stuff look really cheesy. I'm just saying. Usually pre vids give you a good idea of how good a game is. Mass effect looked great. It was great. Same with gears, etc, etc.. Too human does not look good and i'm sure a lot of people agree who have seen the pre release stuff.
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#12 Trickshot771
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I'm just the kind of person who doesn't require a game to be spectacular to enjoy it. I probably put a good 40 hours into Two Worlds and of course the entire time I was thinking "wow, this could have been a lot better" but that didn't keep me from enjoying it.

I'll play anything that's similar to Diablo or it's sequel.

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#13 bulletwitch1
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Mass effect didn't look all that impressive to me at first.. I had been eating those words since the game launched.. I'm not judging anything until i've atleast played it. even if a game scores low, sometime their descent rentals.
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#14 Trickshot771
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SK said that they're releasing a demo before the game comes out. I guess we'll all get to try it then and see for ourselves whether or not the game is good.

I have high hopes for SK. They're known for making exceptional games and just because Too Human has been in development for a long time doesn't mean it's going to be bad.

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#15 nahmean187
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too human is boom or bust

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#16 epic_pets
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Because fable 2 has better developers.
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#18 cthecoffee
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when i think of too human i think of mass effect, that game was hyped out to hell and when it came out eveyrone tryed it. now noone cares about it, and i think too humans gonna be the same way.

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#19 TheHumanDove
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My favorite part of all of this is that neither game has been released yet.
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#20 m_axe9
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Too Human? So far the trailers are uninspiring and the animations are craptacular. Fable2 can do online co-op, not sure about Too Human. Too Human is like dungeon crawler with share screen co-op, I have yet to see a NPC interaction in a town. And Too Human graphics is not artistic, just some generic future theme with bad textures. And they are the only developer who has trouble with Unreal Engine 3. I only care about this game because it is published by MGS.

Fable2 graphics alone is drooling. The online co-op looks good. And it is more RPG oriented, more NPC interaction. You can buy every house in the game, woot. Too Human is more action oriented.

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Because fable 2 has better developers.epic_pets
ok ill answer to both these people. fable 2 has better devolopers? not according to gamespot. silicon knights actully has higher scores then lion head. and to the next guy. you are probably watching old trailers too human looks beutifal me and actully has really really good animations if you watch new videos. btw i dont know why they were the only people that had trouble with the engine. but when they made their own engine the game was fine.

too human has very action combat but it is not an action game this is what dennis dyack is talking about when he says the game is very misunderstood. it has more then 90 minutes of cutscenes. does fable? does fable have hundreds of thousands of armor combinations? and hundreds of thousands of weapon combinations helllllllllllllll no. so i dont think in any way fable 2 is more rpg oriented. from the videos ive seen it really looked like fable 2 didnt have online coop. but i guess i was wrong i still think too human will have much more fun online coop though since the different classes compliment eachother so well.

then you talked about how too human has no npc interaction does final fantasy ? does mass effect? do most rpgs besides fable 2 have that? i dont think so. too human isnt open becuase it wants to tell a story and just have a really cinematic experience. they cant do that in that in the way that want to in an open world type of thing. im sorry to make this so long but what you said is just sooooooo rediculous.

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[QUOTE="m_axe9"]ive seen alot of people all the time say fable 2 is so much better but i just have no clue why a game that has a worse story less awsome combat no online play and not even a tenth as deep or as long is better. plus too human has better ai and has 50 enemies onscreen.nicknees93
First of all, no one knows which is better since there not out yet. second, fable has a better reputation due to its first game which was amazing.

Although, Too Human was suppose to originally release on the PSX. There hasnt been a version of Too Human released yet so how can it even have a reputation? Both games have RPG elements but they're different so how can they even be compared? That's pretty stupid, if you ask me. No offense, but it's like putting Halo 3 up against Mass Effect. Like, what the hell?

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#22 w4rgasm
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Let's just wait and see before we make any opinions.
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#23 fox-in-socks
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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

Too Human? So far the trailers are uninspiring and the animations are craptacular. Fable2 can do online co-op, not sure about Too Human. Too Human is like dungeon crawler with share screen co-op, I have yet to see a NPC interaction in a town. And Too Human graphics is not artistic, just some generic future theme with bad textures. And they are the only developer who has trouble with Unreal Engine 3. I only care about this game because it is published by MGS.

Fable2 graphics alone is drooling. The online co-op looks good. And it is more RPG oriented, more NPC interaction. You can buy every house in the game, woot. Too Human is more action oriented.

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Because fable 2 has better developers.epic_pets
ok ill answer to both these people. fable 2 has better devolopers? not according to gamespot. silicon knights actully has higher scores then lion head. and to the next guy. you are probably watching old trailers too human looks beutifal me and actully has really really good animations if you watch new videos. btw i dont know why they were the only people that had trouble with the engine. but when they made their own engine the game was fine.

too human has very action combat but it is not an action game this is what dennis dyack is talking about when he says the game is very misunderstood. it has more then 90 minutes of cutscenes. does fable? does fable have hundreds of thousands of armor combinations? and hundreds of thousands of weapon combinations helllllllllllllll no. so i dont think in any way fable 2 is more rpg oriented. from the videos ive seen it really looked like fable 2 didnt have online coop. but i guess i was wrong i still think too human will have much more fun online coop though since the different classes compliment eachother so well.

then you talked about how too human has no npc interaction does final fantasy ? does mass effect? do most rpgs besides fable 2 have that? i dont think so. too human isnt open becuase it wants to tell a story and just have a really cinematic experience. they cant do that in that in the way that want to in an open world type of thing. im sorry to make this so long but what you said is just sooooooo rediculous.

first of all lion heads P.M is probably one of the best game developers ever he just needs to learn to keep his mouth shut when he is supposed to and i think he has done that this time. first of all your comment too human has 90 minutes of cut sceans. is that supposed to be a good thing because cut sceans are gay i dont know any one who even likes cutsceans lol. plus that customization thing ok well i may have the same armor as someone else in fable 2 but my characters going to look completly different to theres because of the choices i make in the game. plus you can customize your own jewlery in the game. so suck on that. also the combat system not sure who was bagging it but the combat system on fable 2 is going to be the best ever made as it has enough depth that you wont be able to learn all the combat moves by the time you finnish the game but any non gamer can pick up a controler and play (even my dad probably). this game is going to be next generation style its involving emotion. im not sure if you have played gta 4 but its rated 10 and when i played that game i thought it was so gay when my charactor was angry that that machell chick because she was using him basicly. i never went on a second date with her cuz i didnt like her so nicko shouldnt even have cared but he did. and thats what peter M hates. plus the good people at rockstar studios put that every action has a conciquence thing in their game ring any bells because it sounds a lot like fable 1.

its funny fable 2 is a game set in a fantacy world with magic and beasts and stuff but yet there probably isnt a game yet thats going to be more realalistic. im sorry to make this so long but what YOU said is just sooooooo rediculous.

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#24 Trickshot771
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I love how some people are listing one of the reasons for Fable 2 being better than Too Human is because of online co-op. How about you guys research a game before you say it's crap?
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ive seen alot of people all the time say fable 2 is so much better but i just have no clue why a game that has a worse story less awsome combat no online play and not even a tenth as deep or as long is better. plus too human has better ai and has 50 enemies onscreen.m_axe9
Lemme just say, NONE of that stuff is provable right now, except online play, so... you fail.

Worse story? Prove it.

Less awesome combat? That's all what your taste is.

Not even a tenth as deep or as long, prove it, and who cares how deep it is, you don't play a game for "deepness."

Better AI? Again, prove itl.

50 enemies on screen, that's because Too Human's gameplay allows that, Fable 2 has a more realistic type of combat, who 50 enemies on screen in Fable 2 would be stupid.

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#27 TheActionFigure
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Both look like they're worth trying, so I'll give both a shot. And if both turn out good we all win.
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#28 shaunchgo
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The game isn't out yet - how could it be better?
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#29 NSR34GTR
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i think its becuase fable has a better rep
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#30 shawn7324
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Who knows which is better when neither has been released???
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#31 RollingZeppelin
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How about everyone calm the f down. There's no need for this rampant fanboyism. The two games are completely different styles with completely different settings. The games will be able to coexist so who the f cares which one will be better? I'm going to wait for the reviews before i judge these games, and if they're good I'll buy them on their own merits.

I suggest you do the same before you have a brain aneurism.

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#32 arthas242000
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Honestly, it doesn't matter if they are better than each other; what matters is that the 360 is actually getting some decent Action RPGS. I mean I love shooters as much as the next arkham inmate but that doesn't mean that every single game on the 360 has to be a FPS or third person shooter. I'm relieved in many ways then one that the 360 is getting Too Human (dungeon crawler) and Fable 2 (fantasy based RPG with style/pick your own adventure mentality) HOORAY BEER!!
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#33 Hickamie14
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Dude, SHUT THE F*** UP! The games are not even out yet! Yea Too Human has awesome combat, oh wait does it? Is it fun to play, are the controls good, levels? A.I? Story? WE HAVE NO IDEA. People like you are so irritating, you compare games that have yet to come out, no one said Fable 2 is better than Too Human, all anyone ever said was it LOOKS better than Too Human. Jeez, compare the games after they've come out, you know, when you've actually played them.
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Because the first Fable was a great success.
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#35 Power_Wrist
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We can't judge any until they're out. Although if I had to hazard a guess as too the reason you think "Fable 2 is better than Too Human", I would say it was because Fable 2 is a sequel, it has something to base it's reputation on. Too Human, on the other hand, is a new source. We can't pass judgment until it is completed.
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#36 Mage_7
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[QUOTE="m_axe9"]ive seen alot of people all the time say fable 2 is so much better but i just have no clue why a game that has a worse story less awsome combat no online play and not even a tenth as deep or as long is better. plus too human has better ai and has 50 enemies onscreen.nicknees93
First of all, no one knows which is better since there not out yet. second, fable has a better reputation due to its first game which was amazing.

agreed