Why is Mass Effect good?

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#1 MBXIII
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Alright, I've had the game for quite a while and I can't get into it. I'll admit the story is beautifully made. But I need gameplay to keep me motivated and I'm not big on RPGs. I haven't gotten too far though buy I find the combat to be boring. Is there anything in it for a non-RPG fan or should I just return the disc to the owner?

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#2 joesh89
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I'm not an RPG fan, and Mass Effect was one of my favourite games of this gen. Its immersive storyline was more than enough to keep me hooked.

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#3 dragonic9100
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well when it came out the idea of controlling character actions togive multiple outcomes(like the rachni queen living or dying) was a big deal. so this definately gave it some hype. it had a fantastic story but ill admit the gameplay was a little lacking. if it wasnt for biotics i never would have gotten into it

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#4 neildneil
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I have no idea why this game is considered good.

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#5 joesh89
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I have no idea why this game is considered good.

neildneil

What an intriguing statement, I also have no idea why you think that.

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#6 savetehhaloz
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For me, it was the game's immersive story, immersive universe and the implications of your actions. + Hearing your character talk is a plus in my books :P
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#7 jasonharris48
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I have no idea why this game is considered good.

neildneil

For what reason why wouldn't it be not considered good?

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#8 hassanfadil
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I would suggest playing it more if you haven't said "I've had the game for quite a while", cause it's simply too good to miss IMO.
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#9 neildneil
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[QUOTE="neildneil"]

I have no idea why this game is considered good.

jasonharris48

For what reason why wouldn't it be not considered good?

Well I played it quite a way through, before stopping out of sheer boredom. The story I did think was quite good, but shooting wasn't fun andthe choosing of your replies was novel, but I never ever felt that I was actually changing anything. I just felt that it was trying to make you feel like you had more choice than you had, and also, I felt that it was just very boring. Just not for me I guess.

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#11 chefstubbies
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I really enjoyed Mass Effect...but I love Sci-Fi as well as RPG's, and I found Mass Effect the perfect blend of the two. It reminded me somewhat of Wing Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger, which is one of my favorite games as well.

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#12 Hakud0ushi
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Nice rpg elements, good story, and the gameplay (3rd person) is fantastic. :)
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#13 teej521
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The combat wasn't that great in my opinion, but the story and way you could interact with the characters is why this game is one of my favorites.

BioWare never fails me.

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#14 SteffenStig
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Mass Effect was the third RPG game i tried out on the first x box console. I tried Jade Empire and Knights of the Old Republic before that, and I must admit that even though the plot seemed like just another ordinary sci-fi story, I was entertained! The thing about the game is that I would suggest that you give it a try (say atleast 5 hours) and if the game still doesn't suite you, just leave it. There is no point in playing a game you hate, just because you've heard or read it was suppose to be good. Also if the genre isn't you, you'll miss out a lot (meaning if you just randomly pick an options in the dialog) and that's really a shame.
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#15 Syntax_Kita
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It's pretty decent. The coolest thing about the game is the biotics but once you get used to those it's an above average game.
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#16 KSU-Wildcat
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Mass Effect is my favorite game of the gen. The gameplay is fun, it has good pacing, I enjoyed the exploration and sidequests, and never has a videogame story came close to Mass Effect's. Heck, few stories in any medium have.

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#17 RAMRODtheMASTER
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Compelling story, well developed characters, commanding your own ship, and decent combat.
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#18 nickdastick
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I'm not an RPG fan, and Mass Effect was one of my favourite games of this gen. Its immersive storyline was more than enough to keep me hooked.

joesh89

Same. It had enough action to keep it fun and the RPG elements were easy to do. The second one looks amazing!

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#19 kozzy1234
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- Great story

- Cool characters

- Awesome detail in the gameworld and stuff that has happened before and in the past

- Good rpg elements

- Good voice acting

- Fun gameplay

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#20 PlasmaBeam44
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Mass Effect is an immensely over rated game. I like it but it's not the greatest game of all time like some people make it out to be. ME2 seems to be what ME1 was supposed to be.

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#21 gamer082009
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Mass Effect deserves every bit of praise it gets. It's not successful for nothin. It's popular because it's a good game and If it was a bad game then no one would buy it the way they have. Majority of people think the game is good, so we're right and you nay-sayers are wrong. Some people actually don't like Metal Gear Solid games..someone will always not like something because they are close minded for particular genres like I use to be. But now I've opened up to a vast of different type of games and I'm happy I did. Mass Effect 2 will be amazing too btw!
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#22 atm0073
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It took me about 8 hours of gameplay to get into Mass Effect, so you are likely experiencing something similar. Just keep playing.
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#23 ComBaTsOuL
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I think ME1 is amazing, my only problem was how poorly optimized it was on the 360 other than that amazing game....
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#24 Palantas
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If you're not an RPG fan, and you don't like the combat you've seen so far, I guess I'd advise you take it back.

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#25 MBXIII
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[QUOTE="MBXIII"]

should I just return the disc to the owner?

Vuurk

Are you implying that you stole the discs from someone? =P

No I borrowed it from a friend. Borrowed not "Borrowed".

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#26 Twin-Blade
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I think the party AI is pretty poor, combat is clunky, but not bad, the vehicle sections are annoying and it has frame rate issues from time to time, but I still love ME. I think the voice acting is good, I'm satisified with the dialogue options, the Mass Effect universe is great & I love the whole diplomatic theme between the races - I also love that they have voice acting for your character when you answer people. That really annoys me in Dragon Age after playing ME, I was expecting it seeing as it was Biowares next big IP.

If Mass Effect 2 has a decent story I won't regret my purchase, but I'm really hoping the combat is almost on par with Gears or something, that would make the game near perfect for me, even if the party AI is still poor. As long as they can distract a few bullets & unlock things for me, I'll be happy.

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#27 daniel_haaf
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At first, I found Mass Effect hard to play, boring and just a way of spending to much time in front of my tv. But after the first painful run I actually found it very good in many ways. The first and most interesting part, after completing it twice with both good and evil characters, is the different reactions in both audio and video throughout the game. The second is the massive maps and areas to move in, even though they are pretty restricted in movement. Sure, it means a lot of time just running around doing absolutely nothing, but I can live with that. Third, setting the talentpoints for the companions and change gear and stuff on them is pretty cool (it took me almost my whole first run before I actually realized I could make them better myself :P).

A lot with Mass Effect can be improved in several ways, but the base is very good and offers much to build on for the sequel.

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#28 Edragonxx
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Story story and again story! It's little bit boring play game without good story. Pointless, no entertainment :)

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#29 UT_Wrestler
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Mass Effect is a mix of a story-driven and character-driven rpg. If story and character customization aren't your thing, then just go back to your mindless run-and-gun shooters.
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#30 Wakanoid
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It took me about 8 hours of gameplay to get into Mass Effect, so you are likely experiencing something similar. Just keep playing.atm0073
I've finished 1/3 planets so far and I'm on my 2nd and im extremely bored, I Feel like im missing something .. I don't know what to do, force myself to play it.. or just stop?
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#31 SteffenStig
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Story story and again story! It's little bit boring play game without good story. Pointless, no entertainment :)

Edragonxx

Heck, its a rpg. Story is everything.

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#32 dimis_
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It only takes a Dragon Age trial to show you how this game actually has lots of gameplay. I cannot believe they were developed by the same company. THe battle system in Dragon Age was horrendous. In ME, it's the best i have encountered in an RPG. Ever.

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#33 Urban_Flow
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It's Just Good.....(I feel like I posted in a ME2-Hater thread before) :D

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#34 Palantas
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THe battle system in Dragon Age was horrendous. In ME, it's the best i have encountered in an RPG. Ever.

dimis_

If Mass Effect was the best you've encountered, you might check out the "battle system" in Call of Duty, Halo, or Gears of War.

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#35 xXNOOBKILLAXx
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i've played alot of games on lots of different consoles and i have to say the mass effect 1+2 is easily in my top 10 favourite......the story and rpg elements of mass effect is what drives the game..not the combat, if your buying an rpg for its combat its like buying a racing game but hate driving cars =]

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#36 Palantas
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...the story and rpg elements of mass effect is what drives the game..not the combat

xXNOOBKILLAXx

I agree. The combat in Mass Effect goes:

  1. Shoot things until they die.
  2. See point 1.

There's very little room for planning and tactical ingenuity in Mass Effect. For me, the fun in the combat came from upgrading my weapons and improving my abilities, so that I was able to "Shoot things until they die" faster.

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#37 sharkbiscuit79
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The combat wasn't that great in my opinion

teej521

talk about an understatemant. I though i would give it another go recently but im on the 2 or 3rd mission, ive just rescued the blue chick and the buildings falling apart and when the lift gets to the top your confronted by some bad guys and i just keep getting klled and i mean battered every time I have no idea what im doing wrong i find cover still beaten i have ranked up all characters and send them to cover and still the same. I really want to enjoy this so i can get 2. maybe some helpful tips would be appreciated PLEASE:D

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#38 iamdanthaman
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My first playthrough was with an infiltrator, bad decision on my part, biotics are the best part of this game, and I didn't really get into it through Eden Prime, the citadel, Therum and even Feros, Then I went to Noveria and Virmire, and I couldn't put it down, I was totally hooked, and I ended up playing the game through 7 or 8 times and getting all the achievements. It may not be for everyone, but if you don't give it a fair chance you are missing out.
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#39 Palantas
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talk about an understatemant. I though i would give it another go recently but im on the 2 or 3rd mission, ive just rescued the blue chick and the buildings falling apart and when the lift gets to the top your confronted by some bad guys and i just keep getting klled and i mean battered every time I have no idea what im doing wrong i find cover still beaten i have ranked up all characters and send them to cover and still the same. I really want to enjoy this so i can get 2. maybe some helpful tips would be appreciated PLEASE:D

sharkbiscuit79

That battle's a pain. I'm doing an Inansity playthrough from a 1st-level character, and that battle about drove me to distraction. Here's what I did:

  • Immediately kill the Geth sniper and rocket trooper, as they can one-hit your companion.
  • The Krogan will basically go and hide until, either A.) He's almost dead, or B.) You kill both the Geth shock troopers.
  • Knowing this, place your companions (D-pad up) to one of the sides, they move around the outside of the circular walls to take shots at the Krogan.
  • When he's weak, finish off the Geth.
  • Hope he charges your companions and not you. His melee is a one-hit kill.
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#40 Hakud0ushi
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Awesome gameplay with a great story = success in my book.
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#41 Wakanoid
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[QUOTE="neildneil"]

I have no idea why this game is considered good.

joesh89

What an intriguing statement, I also have no idea why you think that.

I also have no idea why I don't like the game. Anyway, january? Bit of a bump isn't it?
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#42 XXGamerfanXX
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OP, It takes time to get use to. At first, I didn't like the game, then I got use to it and I love it, especially the Biotic powers. It just takes time OP, but the Storyline is what made the game a million times better.
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#43 chaoscougar1
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loved the game, great story, great RPG elements (which were removed in the second one) and beautiful visuals
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#44 dimis_
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[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="dimis_"]

THe battle system in Dragon Age was horrendous. In ME, it's the best i have encountered in an RPG. Ever.

If Mass Effect was the best you've encountered, you might check out the "battle system" in Call of Duty, Halo, or Gears of War.

You probably half-read posts, or you are more interested in popping up to say whatever than contribute. I said... the best, in an RPG. Not an action title.
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#45 Palantas
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Who tells someone they don't contribute, then writes a post that's two-thirds whining about how someone else does their foruming? This guy:

You probably half-read posts, or you are more interested in popping up to say whatever than contribute. I said... the best, in an RPG. Not an action title. dimis_

Yeah...I got that. The "battle system" in Mass Effect played like a shooter, a simple shooter. I commented on this in the thread:

[QUOTE="xXNOOBKILLAXx"]

...the story and rpg elements of mass effect is what drives the game..not the combat

I

I agree. The combat in Mass Effect goes:

  1. Shoot things until they die.
  2. See point 1.

There's very little room for planning and tactical ingenuity in Mass Effect. For me, the fun in the combat came from upgrading my weapons and improving my abilities, so that I was able to "Shoot things until they die" faster.

You can perform only the most rudementary actions in Mass Effect that aren't simply shooting enemies. You have a couple crowd control spells with the biotic powers, and a couple de-buffs with the engineer. That's it. Basic RPG concepts, like tanks and healers, buffs, and aggro control don't exist in Mass Effect. RPGs 20 years ago had a wider selection of spells than Mass Effect, both in number and type.

I loved Mass Effect, and I enjoyed shooting stuff, but I thought its combat was about as divorced as you could get from the RPG experience. Then you say that you think Mass Effect has a great battle system, whereas a game like Dragon Age (that does have normal RPG combat) sucks. Dragon Age's combat (especially when constrasted with Mass Effect) basically describes most party-based RPGs ever made. So...what's up with that? Do you just not like normal RPGs?