Why is x-box live not free?

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#1 Lord-Nerevar
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Seirously...ask yourself, "What am I paying money for?". Online multiplayer! Oh wait PS3 and wii give it away free. DLC! nope you have to pay more for that aswell. It seems to me that Microsoft is an expert at nickle and dimeing people, they've got us paying for something that is included in the thing we just bought! Hopefully pressure from Sony and Nintendo will cause Microsoft to change their ways, (not likely). And before you say it NO im not trolling or a fanboy, I dont even own a PS3 or Wii.
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#2 Strife88
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Basically they feel their service is good enough to charge a fee for and most people would agree with that so that's how it is I guess.
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#3 Serial-No_3404
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isnt live the most well implemented out of the 3 consoles? i dont know cause i bought my 360 today
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#4 chaoscougar1
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im so sick of people wanting something for nothing, if u dont like paying, then dont, i doubt microsoft could care less, but im extremely happy with what i get for the fee i pay
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#5 Legolas_Katarn
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isnt live the most well implemented out of the 3 consoles? i dont know cause i bought my 360 todaySerial-No_3404

Yes, and I don't think anyone would pay $50 for the Wii's online service.

I'd pay $50 just to have the 360s ability to private chat on the other consoles. Of course, the Wii needs the ability to talk at all first.

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#6 TM1
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Because if it was free you'd be getting service like the playstation network. Don't get me wrong i have a PS3 and love it but the online world is probably it's worst feature.
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#7 Heartagram_03
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Because xbox live has the best online service than any other console. If it were free you would get something choppy like the psn
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#8 LRP85
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How do you think they can do those annual updates? They use that money to keep live running smoothly. That has not been happening very well lately though.
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#9 Strife88
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Every year with the amount of better games you get a lot of new gamers so they need the money to keep everything up to date to provide everyone with a great service.
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#10 Lord-Nerevar
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im so sick of people wanting something for nothing, if u dont like paying, then dont, i doubt microsoft could care less, but im extremely happy with what i get for the fee i paychaoscougar1

something for nothing? You bought the console and the game! Free online services aren't what you want its what you diserve

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#11 Legolas_Katarn
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Selling games does not give Microsoft money to update the service. I thought they were losing money for every console they sold for awhile.

I have had live since 2003 and I have not heard many people complaining about paying at the time. Why is everyone whining now when the service is much better. Is it because the PS3 is offering decent online and the Wii is, sort of, offering online for free?

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#12 MADVLAD123
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If you can afford a 360, you can afford 50 bucks a year. Work at McDonald's for a month and you'll get enough for the year and then some.

Plus, most of you are mooching off money from your parents anyway so what does it matter.

And to answer your question, it's because it produces a lot of revenue and profit for Microsoft, which lets them make more games and hardware. It's good enough to warrant the 50 bucks.

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#13 bazanger
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Because if it was free you'd be getting service like the playstation network. Don't get me wrong i have a PS3 and love it but the online world is probably it's worst feature. TM1
same here.
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#14 BLBLAKERS10
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Ask your self what in life is free?

Its 4$ a month get over it.. The service isnt great and tons of problems.. But 4$ come on..

just end the thread.

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#15 190586385885857957282413308806
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Xbox Live is a service unlike any other service offered on consoles or on PC. It has no competition so therefore MS can charge whatever they want.
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#16 freshgman
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50dollars a year for good reliable online. Doesnt sound too bad
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#17 Bruce_McGivern
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Why are people still asking this?
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#18 TheThreeSeat
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I have never regretted paying for it, and I've had it for 4 years now. I mean its not even absurdly expensive (im looking at you, WoW) and it has almost always been run very professionally.
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#19 gorilazandgames
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microsoft wants money for their service.
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Seirously...ask yourself, "What am I paying money for?". Online multiplayer! Oh wait PS3 and wii give it away free. DLC! nope you have to pay more for that aswell. It seems to me that Microsoft is an expert at nickle and dimeing people, they've got us paying for something that is included in the thing we just bought! Hopefully pressure from Sony and Nintendo will cause Microsoft to change their ways, (not likely). And before you say it NO im not trolling or a fanboy, I dont even own a PS3 or Wii.Lord-Nerevar

We pay for:

  • Infrastructure that allows the community to self-govern with:
    • Gamer zone
    • Rep
    • Prefer/avoid
    • Feedback- monitored by an international team who randomly join sessions to police the online experience
  • 2 levels of matchmaking:
    • Preference-based with the features listed above
    • Skill-based using the proprietary TruSkill system
  • Functional cross-game invite system that brings you straight into a friend's session
  • Closed, secure network that actively checks for modded consoles
  • Compared to the competition, MS seems to be the best connected to its community
    • There are publicly visible MS personnel dedicated to the Xbox Live community like Major Nelson and Trixie
    • They have MVP, Ambassador and Community Developer Programs. See the gamercards in our sigs? MS didn'make those. But they do have their programmers help community sites.
    • Community Calendar with Ladies Night, Prime Time and Family Game Night, Play with Devs, Game With Fame, etc.
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#21 zellwood69
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i felt the same at one point but now i see what i'm paying for. There service is way better. but you have to pay for tons of things in life that could be free but they aint because if they were they would suck so you are paying for quality..
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#22 stevenk4k5
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It costs money for Microsoft to run all those servers. And $50 for 13 months is nothing, stop complaining. XBOX Live is the best online system out of all the current generation consoles, you pay for quality.
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#23 TaintedSaint666
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We get a better service, PS3 doesn't get messages when the service if going to be down. Besides, if your soo sick of paying for the service, go get a PS3 and stop your whining.
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[QUOTE="Lord-Nerevar"]Seirously...ask yourself, "What am I paying money for?". Online multiplayer! Oh wait PS3 and wii give it away free. DLC! nope you have to pay more for that aswell. It seems to me that Microsoft is an expert at nickle and dimeing people, they've got us paying for something that is included in the thing we just bought! Hopefully pressure from Sony and Nintendo will cause Microsoft to change their ways, (not likely). And before you say it NO im not trolling or a fanboy, I dont even own a PS3 or Wii.VoodooHak

We pay for:

  • Infrastructure that allows the community to self-govern with:
    • Gamer zone
    • Rep
    • Prefer/avoid
    • Feedback- monitored by an international team who randomly join sessions to police the online experience
  • 2 levels of matchmaking:
    • Preference-based with the features listed above
    • Skill-based using the proprietary TruSkill system
  • Functional cross-game invite system that brings you straight into a friend's session
  • Closed, secure network that actively checks for modded consoles
  • Compared to the competition, MS seems to be the best connected to its community
    • There are publicly visible MS personnel dedicated to the Xbox Live community like Major Nelson and Trixie
    • They have MVP, Ambassador and Community Developer Programs. See the gamercards in our sigs? MS didn'make those. But they do have their programmers help community sites.
    • Community Calendar with Ladies Night, Prime Time and Family Game Night, Play with Devs, Game With Fame, etc.

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#25 diablobasher
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I've always been against paying for simple multiplayer, especially given its all host driven and MS do not set up dedicated servers for games, where does the money go?!? Certainly not anywhere usefull.

I buy the occasional 3/mo prepaid card when I want to get some online achievements, otherwise i stay well away from it.

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#26 C_BozkurT_C
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If you can afford a 360, you can afford 50 bucks a year. Work at McDonald's for a month and you'll get enough for the year and then some.

Plus, most of you are mooching off money from your parents anyway so what does it matter.

And to answer your question, it's because it produces a lot of revenue and profit for Microsoft, which lets them make more games and hardware. It's good enough to warrant the 50 bucks.

MADVLAD123
yea but if you plan on having the console 3-4 years, thats $150-$200..kinda expensive if you think about it in the long run.
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#27 diablobasher
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If you can afford a 360, you can afford 50 bucks a year. Work at McDonald's for a month and you'll get enough for the year and then some.

Plus, most of you are mooching off money from your parents anyway so what does it matter.

MADVLAD123

It matters to those of us who work for our money and pay rent.

I would much rather divert the $80 (It' $80 usd in this country) toward 2, even 3 new games, or better yet spend it on the myriad of bills i pay every month. Not all of us mooch off our parents, and to some of us that money is needed elsewhere, besides, how is making MS almost raw profit going to benefit me? New hardware/software?? I still have to PAY for that too, your logic is twisted.

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#28 LT-Z400
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i think they make us pay ,because they wanna hear poor cheapskates cry about it
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#29 x-2tha-z
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I own a PS3 and 360. The PSN is crap. I'd rather pay for PSN because it would mean Sony would have to provide us with a good service. They gave us that piece of crap because it's free.

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#30 Immortal_Evil
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Pay for it and you get the best current online console experience to date. DOnt? and get that trash that psn and wii has.
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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]isnt live the most well implemented out of the 3 consoles? i dont know cause i bought my 360 todayLegolas_Katarn

Yes, and I don't think anyone would pay $50 for the Wii's online service.

I'd pay $50 just to have the 360s ability to private chat on the other consoles. Of course, the Wii needs the ability to talk at all first.

nope, there's not point to online play without voice chat, otherwise to me it's just like fighting a harder computer, which isn't much fun imo.