Would 360 games look better on a 1080p HDTV or 720p?

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#1 ajames_123
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Im thinking of getting a 1080p Samsung 40"" as my mate is giving me money for my 32"" 720p Samsung.

I will be using the VGA cable so would games look better/sharper than my old 720p set or worse cause my native is 1080p?

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Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.
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ok thnx

 

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#4 F1sTDaCuffS
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yeah, i did'nt know 360 had a patch for 1080p i had my 1080p for weeks but was running it in 1080i with graw 2 then switched it over to 1080p. i really would'nt think it made a difference until i played the game and realized that things where more rendered and glossy, like the smoke and the water. and humans faces.
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Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.gullytolwyn
Naw. At that size you will almost certainly not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. If the 1080p tv is a lot more don't bother, just get the 720p tv and you won't be missing a thing.
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[QUOTE="gullytolwyn"]Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.jmartinez1983
Naw. At that size you will almost certainly not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. If the 1080p tv is a lot more don't bother, just get the 720p tv and you won't be missing a thing.

yup at 40 inches there's not a huge difference
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#7 rdo
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http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/blogs/turn_10s_forza_motorsport_blog/archive/2007/02/12/46731.aspx  they reccomend 1080p.
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Well if you plan on getting the Xbox 360 Elite because it has HDMI to fully support 1080p, I'd recommend the Samsung 1080p.  It's a nice HD system, my friend has one of them.  Not to mention pretty and stylish too.  When it comes to using VGA for that high a resolution though, I'm a bit iffy on the idea, especially as it's an analog input, and you could notice fuzz and other TV-ish discrepencies like I have using the 360 VGA cable on my Samsung 19-inch monitor computer monitor.  HDMI is fully digital.  I wish Microsoft would make a DVI Cable.
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Well if you plan on getting the Xbox 360 Elite because it has HDMI to fully support 1080p, I'd recommend the Samsung 1080p.  It's a nice HD system, my friend has one of them.  Not to mention pretty and stylish too.  When it comes to using VGA for that high a resolution though, I'm a bit iffy on the idea, especially as it's an analog input, and you could notice fuzz and other TV-ish discrepencies like I have using the 360 VGA cable on my Samsung 19-inch monitor computer monitor.  HDMI is fully digital.  I wish Microsoft would make a DVI Cable.mouthforbathory
hmdi is not needed,  that is a myth/lie endorsed by sony.  samsung and pioneere both make tv's that do 1080p via component cables

 

'Uh, you guys do know that Xbox 360 does 1080p now over your standard component cables, right? Wink [;)]

Anyway, from personal experience, 1080p over component cables gives you richer colors, while 1080p over VGA and HDMI give you a sharper picture (less ghosting with text in menus, for instance) while colors overall look a little more washed out. As for Forza Motorsport 2 in 1080p... so far, it's looking very good. That's as much testament to the game's graphics as it is the Xbox 360's beastly resolution upscaler chip, dubbed Ana. "

just because sony tv's cant do it dosn't mean it cant be done,  it just cant be done on an overpriced generic sony.

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Oh I know about the 1080p over component thing, however, I think it's dependent on the TV on whether it'll accept 1080p via component.  

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[QUOTE="mouthforbathory"]Well if you plan on getting the Xbox 360 Elite because it has HDMI to fully support 1080p, I'd recommend the Samsung 1080p. It's a nice HD system, my friend has one of them. Not to mention pretty and stylish too. When it comes to using VGA for that high a resolution though, I'm a bit iffy on the idea, especially as it's an analog input, and you could notice fuzz and other TV-ish discrepencies like I have using the 360 VGA cable on my Samsung 19-inch monitor computer monitor. HDMI is fully digital. I wish Microsoft would make a DVI Cable.rdo

hmdi is not needed, that is a myth/lie endorsed by sony. samsung and pioneere both make tv's that do 1080p via component cables

'Uh, you guys do know that Xbox 360 does 1080p now over your standard component cables, right? Wink [;)]

Anyway, from personal experience, 1080p over component cables gives you richer colors, while 1080p over VGA and HDMI give you a sharper picture (less ghosting with text in menus, for instance) while colors overall look a little more washed out. As for Forza Motorsport 2 in 1080p... so far, it's looking very good. That's as much testament to the game's graphics as it is the Xbox 360's beastly resolution upscaler chip, dubbed Ana. "

just because sony tv's cant do it dosn't mean it cant be done, it just cant be done on an overpriced generic sony.

Yeah it can send the signal over the component cables, but only around 3 or 4 TVs will *accept* the 1080p signal over component. That's the problem.
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I also want the 1080p resolution for my PC as i have a 8800gtx. at the mo 1360x768 seems a bit of a waste.
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#13 mouthforbathory
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I also want the 1080p resolution for my PC as i have a 8800gtx. at the mo 1360x768 seems a bit of a waste.ajames_123

Considering Crysis ran consitently at 60 fps on a higher-than-1080p monitor with full specs (in DX10 mode of course), that would be really cool to have!  I myself just bought a monitor for when I get an Asus XG for my notebook.  While it's no super-hi-resolution beast, it's still nice and clear when outputed to with my 360 or notebook, not to mention speedy with 2 millisecond refresh :D

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[QUOTE="gullytolwyn"]Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.jmartinez1983
Naw. At that size you will almost certainly not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. If the 1080p tv is a lot more don't bother, just get the 720p tv and you won't be missing a thing.

Don't listen to people that say this because they have no idea what they are talking about. Let me ask you this, would you notice a difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 on your computer monitor? Yes, you would and a drastic one at that. It gets even more pronounced at bigger sizes. I see a big difference betweeen 720p and 1080p on my 42 inch tv. FAR less jaggies.  

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[QUOTE="jmartinez1983"][QUOTE="gullytolwyn"]Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.Endgame_basic

Naw. At that size you will almost certainly not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. If the 1080p tv is a lot more don't bother, just get the 720p tv and you won't be missing a thing.

Don't listen to people that say this because they have no idea what they are talking about. Let me ask you this, would you notice a difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 on your computer monitor? Yes, you would and a drastic one at that. It gets even more pronounced at bigger sizes. I see a big difference betweeen 720p and 1080p on my 42 inch tv. FAR less jaggies.

Of course you do on your computer, those games are built with different textures for different resolutions so the game actually scales to the resolution. The vast majority of 360 games are meant for 720p, and many also fully support 1080i. Only 1 at this point fully supports 1080p. The 360 won't see as drastic increase since its mostly just going to upscale from 720p/1080i to 1080p instead of actually being fully rendered in 1080p with 1080p textures. Regardless, if the difference in price is more than a couple hundred bucks the 1080p tv at that size really isn't worth it IMO.
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Here is my opinion having a 1080p Samsung LCD. I have both the Component Cables for my 360 (Obviously, owning the Premium package) and the VGA cables. On my TV the VGA cables outputting 1080p looks washed out and not as vibrant as the Component Cables outputting 1080p. I would personally save your money and not buy the VGA cables.
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[QUOTE="Endgame_basic"]

[QUOTE="jmartinez1983"][QUOTE="gullytolwyn"]Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.jmartinez1983

Naw. At that size you will almost certainly not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. If the 1080p tv is a lot more don't bother, just get the 720p tv and you won't be missing a thing.

Don't listen to people that say this because they have no idea what they are talking about. Let me ask you this, would you notice a difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 on your computer monitor? Yes, you would and a drastic one at that. It gets even more pronounced at bigger sizes. I see a big difference betweeen 720p and 1080p on my 42 inch tv. FAR less jaggies.

Of course you do on your computer, those games are built with different textures for different resolutions so the game actually scales to the resolution. The vast majority of 360 games are meant for 720p, and many also fully support 1080i. Only 1 at this point fully supports 1080p. The 360 won't see as drastic increase since its mostly just going to upscale from 720p/1080i to 1080p instead of actually being fully rendered in 1080p with 1080p textures. Regardless, if the difference in price is more than a couple hundred bucks the 1080p tv at that size really isn't worth it IMO.

1st off, there's no such thing as a 1080p texture...

Second, I have to re-iterate that in games you see far less jaggies at 1080p than at 720p even if the game is native to 720p. I can tell you haven't tested this yourself though as you would know there is a clear difference. That being said, games will look even better once more start comming out in 1080p. As for not spending a few hundred dollars more, anyone who actually thinks about futureproofing would spend the extra money. I know I did.

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Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.gullytolwyn
not exactly; sometimes if you play games that aren't made for 1080p, it doesn't exactly help the quality any, so you might as well save money, considering there is only 1 or 2 games that support 1080p
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[QUOTE="jmartinez1983"][QUOTE="gullytolwyn"]Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.Endgame_basic

Naw. At that size you will almost certainly not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. If the 1080p tv is a lot more don't bother, just get the 720p tv and you won't be missing a thing.

Don't listen to people that say this because they have no idea what they are talking about. Let me ask you this, would you notice a difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 on your computer monitor? Yes, you would and a drastic one at that. It gets even more pronounced at bigger sizes. I see a big difference betweeen 720p and 1080p on my 42 inch tv. FAR less jaggies.

 

Yeah. But when you sit in front of your computer you sit 2 feet away and not 8-10 feet which is normal distance from a TV.

At 8-10 feet there is no way you can spot the differance between 1080 and 720 on a 40" screen. 

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[QUOTE="Endgame_basic"]

[QUOTE="jmartinez1983"][QUOTE="gullytolwyn"]Is this a serious question? 1080p looks much better than 720p in all cases.Radiozo

Naw. At that size you will almost certainly not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. If the 1080p tv is a lot more don't bother, just get the 720p tv and you won't be missing a thing.

Don't listen to people that say this because they have no idea what they are talking about. Let me ask you this, would you notice a difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 on your computer monitor? Yes, you would and a drastic one at that. It gets even more pronounced at bigger sizes. I see a big difference betweeen 720p and 1080p on my 42 inch tv. FAR less jaggies.

 

Yeah. But when you sit in front of your computer you sit 2 feet away and not 8-10 feet which is normal distance from a TV.

At 8-10 feet there is no way you can spot the differance between 1080 and 720 on a 40" screen.

Sigh, listen, there are FAR less jaggies at 1080p than 720p on my 42 inch screen. Jaggies are noticeable at any distance. Once you get a 1080p tv give it a try.

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so i have a cheap westinghouse thats suposedly 720p/1080i i put my 360 on 1080p to try it out and i saw a noticible increase in the graphics but im kinda worried i kno it wasnt built for 1080p and there is deffinately a crease looking thing that goes through the middle of the screen horizontaly think that theres a way to get that out or am i killing my tv. maybe i should just give up my hope of haveing a 1080p setup :'(