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I must say that when players (of any age) show animosity towards other players through trashtalking, it could be considered bullying. And since it's online, it would take on the name "cyberbullying". So therefore, given that many trashtalkers repeat the same lines over and over again, wouldn't you consider them cyberbullies?NicAgent
In most cases yes but thats only if you dont mute them or just trash talk back which i only do when they get owned to teach them to never trash talk to me. I could understand people getting upset over a certain comment but seriously if you let a little 12 year old call you names and you just sit there and take it thats really just encouraging them to keep at it untill they get you really pissed off. I usually just mute them if they make a comment i dont like but if they continue i will just talk back and hand out rapings.
[QUOTE="NicAgent"]I must say that when players (of any age) show animosity towards other players through trashtalking, it could be considered bullying. And since it's online, it would take on the name "cyberbullying". So therefore, given that many trashtalkers repeat the same lines over and over again, wouldn't you consider them cyberbullies?KURUPT_ON3
In most cases yes but thats only if you dont mute them or just trash talk back which i only do when they get owned to teach them to never trash talk to me. I could understand people getting upset over a certain comment but seriously if you let a little 12 year old call you names and you just sit there and take it thats really just encouraging them to keep at it untill they get you really pissed off. I usually just mute them if they make a comment i dont like but if they continue i will just talk back and hand out rapings.
Well in the event I just outlined there wasn't much I could do, because everything they said was justified - I did indeed suck that match! However, there was a 12-year old (or some age around there) trashtalker more recently who was in last place, and I easily fought back saying that whatever he said was indeed frivolous. He soon got his first kill after 3 or 4 rounds but still, he knew nothing of what he was saying.haha cyberbullying.. i always get a kick out of people saying that.
we're raising a generation of pansies. can't even deal with people calling them names over the internet.. sad.
Maybe I'm just the type who doesn't care if it is called that or not. I mean, if Little Johnny gets his feelings hurt by some no-name kid in Halo 2, then perhaps it is time that we introduce Johnny to a game like Viva Pinata? Seriously, if you don't like what you hear coming out of the mouths of pubescant retards on Live then mute the mic, ignore the conversation, or don't play that game online. Freedom of choice.
And if you are a parent and you are ticked because your Little Johnny got his feelings hurt, maybe you should pay a little more attention to what LIttle Johnny is playing. If he is 12 years old and playing a game like Gears, perhaps you should reevaluate the games you purchase for him...
So is trashtalking considered cyberbullying? Probably. Cyberbullying is just a more politically correct way of saying "trashtalking".
Yes I am fully aware that trashtalkers, like any players with mics, can be muted. However, the emotional and psychological trauma may remain with you should the trashtalking be justified (i.e. if they bait you for losing).NicAgent
To be honest, I don't see how people would be too bothered about it. I dislike trash talkers as much as the next guy but I just mute and move on. I don't have time for them. I don't go through emotional and psychological trauma because of what some guy is saying to me over xbox live because they just wouldn't be able to offend me. If somebody calls me bad, I don't care because I don't mind if I am not the best at playing a game. Its a video game and even though I guess by definition it is a form of "bullying", it doesn't matter as a whole as, again, its a video game.
we're raising a generation of pansies. can't even deal with people calling them names over the internet.. sad.
KaotiK_un_basic
I'm inclinced to disagree with you on that. I think we're raising a generation of social degenerates that have no clue how to act appropriate towards other people.
:lol: I agree with this guy.I would consider them cyberbullies, yes.
But 'cyberbully' is four whole sylables. It's easier just to call them 'tools'.
Devallyk
[QUOTE="NicAgent"]Yes I am fully aware that trashtalkers, like any players with mics, can be muted. However, the emotional and psychological trauma may remain with you should the trashtalking be justified (i.e. if they bait you for losing).Caddy06_88
To be honest, I don't see how people would be too bothered about it. I dislike trash talkers as much as the next guy but I just mute and move on. I don't have time for them. I don't go through emotional and psychological trauma because of what some guy is saying to me over xbox live because they just wouldn't be able to offend me. If somebody calls me bad, I don't care because I don't mind if I am not the best at playing a game. Its a video game and even though I guess by definition it is a form of "bullying", it doesn't matter as a whole as, again, its a video game.
We'll I'm never afraid of them, as there's no way of finding out where I live, but the fact that you are hated by them just shows dissatisfaction. However, in many cases the trashtalkers don't have any reason to hate you and start talking smack the moment they see you pop up in the room.I would consider them cyberbullies, yes.
But 'cyberbully' is four whole sylables. It's easier just to call them 'tools'.
Devallyk
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LMAO, yep thats exactly what I do!!! Fantastic isnt it, finding new ways to insult idiots! :D There is definately an interlectual underclass that plays halo in preferance to Rainbow Six (for example).
No way man! The trash talking is why MS charges you the fifty bucks a year.
But don't worry man you'll get use to it you are still a bit new to this whole live thing.Â
The only way I'd call it cyberbullying is if a bully who's been hassling another kid in school. Then went online, seeked that same kid out, and continued to torment him. And if that happens, that's a kid with WAY too much free time, and WAY too few hugs from his mommy.
Trashtalking is just one of those things which will always happen. I know with the people I play with, that the trashtalking is just for fun, and if it goes too far I can just say so, and they'll slow it down a little.
The only way I'd call it cyberbullying is if a bully who's been hassling another kid in school. Then went online, seeked that same kid out, and continued to torment him. And if that happens, that's a kid with WAY too much free time, and WAY too few hugs from his mommy.
Trashtalking is just one of those things which will always happen. I know with the people I play with, that the trashtalking is just for fun, and if it goes too far I can just say so, and they'll slow it down a little.
Magicallystupid
simple formula:Â Video game + Seperation via internet + Pretty much complete anonymity + frustration = loud response.
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Who cares what people say over xbox live? 99 times out 100 what people say over live they'd never repeat to your face, so why make it an issue? Laugh at them and move on. Don't use terms like "psychological damage" and "trauma" because that justifies the act to the trash-talker, so either grow a repertoire of invective and fight back, or mute them and move on. Geez. Overkill anyone? I mean this is the type of thing Jack Thompson would write a letter about: "Little Timmy is depressed because someone said he lacked 'game' while competing in an online video game, disgusting"Â
I completely agree with the comment that people these days are a little too soft for their own good. Talking trash is a part of any competition. What do you think NFL players are saying to each other down on the field? Swapping recipes? If you can't take it, stick to single player games.
However, I also agree that there is a limit - a difference between talking a little smack and being an outright a**. Giving a person some crap is one thing, so long as you're good-natured about it. You know, let 'em know you're not serious, limit profanity and racist comments, don't make the insults too personal, and show 'em some respect when they finally put a little lead in your diet. But the folks who pop into an online game and immediately start spewing hate seriously need up the dosage on their medication. I am not interested in sampling an 11-year-old's extensive knowledge of profanity and racist slurs, and I very seriously doubt if some random douchebag on Xbox Live knows the first thing about my sex life and/or mother.
So really, I can't say I know what in the hell a "cyberbully" is, but I do know a prick when I come across one, and I know what to do about 'em. Mute 'em, have my way with 'em, then kick 'em and take a bite out of their Live reputation. I'm certainly not going to let it bother me enough to bring it up in therapy . . . my hour with Dr. Lowenstein flys by so fast the way it is.
Yeah you have a point there. If you don't know what a cyberbully is, it's easy to self-define. It's a compound word. You know what a "bully" is of course, and you know what "cyber" means. So therefore it is suffice to say that cyberbullying is bullying that occurs through cyberspace (which Xbox Live is).I completely agree with the comment that people these days are a little too soft for their own good. Talking trash is a part of any competition. What do you think NFL players are saying to each other down on the field? Swapping recipes? If you can't take it, stick to single player games.
However, I also agree that there is a limit - a difference between talking a little smack and being an outright a**. Giving a person some crap is one thing, so long as you're good-natured about it. You know, let 'em know you're not serious, limit profanity and racist comments, don't make the insults too personal, and show 'em some respect when they finally put a little lead in your diet. But the folks who pop into an online game and immediately start spewing hate seriously need up the dosage on their medication. I am not interested in sampling an 11-year-old's extensive knowledge of profanity and racist slurs, and I very seriously doubt if some random douchebag on Xbox Live knows the first thing about my sex life and/or mother.
So really, I can't say I know what in the hell a "cyberbully" is, but I do know a prick when I come across one, and I know what to do about 'em. Mute 'em, have my way with 'em, then kick 'em and take a bite out of their Live reputation. I'm certainly not going to let it bother me enough to bring it up in therapy . . . my hour with Dr. Lowenstein flys by so fast the way it is.
bigjoeh
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