Wtf did they do to Vegas 2 MP!!!!

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#1 Matt2556
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I went to play ranked matches and some of them are only 5 minutes and most of them have a limited amount of respawns.

Yes, this makes it more tactical but they still have unlimited respawns in player matches. I dont know why this thread is still going because I dont care about it anymore.

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#2 musicXpirate
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I respawn? I hate games like that. Guess I'll pass on this one as well.
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#3 CheeChee_Macko
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Cool, I'm going to have to get this one now.
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#4 Matt2556
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Its so stupid. Im pissed off now.
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#5 HALO2cookie
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I think i'll pass to..
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#6 flavort
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I think I am passing on this one for now also.
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#7 cronew1
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i though it depended on the match type.
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#8 Matt2556
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I usually only play TD
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#9 ceells87
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is that how all the matches have been or just that one? cause it could just be that's what the host set it up as.
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#10 Matt2556
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Its all Team Deathmatch games. Im in a Team Conquest right now and its 10 minutes with unlimited respawns but I played TD ALOT and it was my favorite.
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#11 OfficialBed
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meh, doesn't bother me
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#12 ceells87
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well honestly im happy with that and sad at the same time.

1. promotes better team work and tactics, since now you get punished for running in guns blazing

2. makes spawn camping impossible ( to my happiness and dismay)

3. there weren't respawns in the older rainbow six days and now ppl who want an infinite amount of chances to try and make different mistakes each time can go play Halo of COD4

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#13 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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That's completely retarded, but I guess it makes it more tactical.
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#14 luigismansion101
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i loved the first vegas, but this one i'm def passing on, for this reason and for the fact that it offers very little new to what was on the first one.
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#15 volcomstoner180
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ya this games not even as good as the first it seems...damn tom clancy games hardly ever make improvements...only take things away...whats with the only 2 player co op...4 players was where it was at
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#16 insanenub51
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get over it..rb6 is now a tactic game and alsso TD isnt everything.
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#17 IONz
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get over it..rb6 is now a tactic game and alsso TD isnt everything.insanenub51
exactly.
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#18 totaldj
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but vegas1 TD matches were pretty much tactical...imo
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#19 faceman420
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so which game is better for my money, vegas 1 or 2?
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#20 caperjim
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One respawn sounds good. It will put an end to the spawn killing which this game is well known for. Ill be sure to buy it now.
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#21 hockeyruler12
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There are different gametypes, and you can always play player matches...you get the same amount of XP
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#22 kozzy1234
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Wow... all my friends who got the game today are pissed off. They say they have ruined rainbow6 yet again :?

One friend even called in sick today to play vegas and he said its horrible.

Ill still probably get it, but hearing all this stuff from friends i trust and people who loved rainbow6 in the past, and now are very upset at how this game turned out.

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#23 MisterTwo1991
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There are alot of changes to RSV2 that make it even better than before. Why would you mess with a great engine (RSV1) to try and make some new crappy engine that will need a few years to envolve anyway? This game is slow and tactical compared to CoD:4 and all your arcade run and gun games. BTW the game is awesome. Im looking foward to XPing and seeing the weapons and outfits they have to offer.

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#24 G5W
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well honestly im happy with that and sad at the same time.

1. promotes better team work and tactics, since now you get punished for running in guns blazing

2. makes spawn camping impossible ( to my happiness and dismay)

3. there weren't respawns in the older rainbow six days and now ppl who want an infinite amount of chances to try and make different mistakes each time can go play Halo of COD4

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#25 Jud0ka
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I went to play a ranked match and 1) Only 5 minutes, 2) Only 1 respawn!!!

Why did they ruin the ranked matches.

Matt2556

Man, Who knows how much people would complain if they played a real tactical shooter like Raven Shield.

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#26 ceells87
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[QUOTE="ceells87"]

well honestly im happy with that and sad at the same time.

1. promotes better team work and tactics, since now you get punished for running in guns blazing

2. makes spawn camping impossible ( to my happiness and dismay)

3. there weren't respawns in the older rainbow six days and now ppl who want an infinite amount of chances to try and make different mistakes each time can go play Halo of COD4

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your gonna have to be more specific on your point....unless you just really wanted to type search and destroy. in that case right on man

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#27 II-FBIsniper-II
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They changed a game mode? Choose one of the other 10 you probably haven't tried yet.
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#28 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="Matt2556"]

I went to play a ranked match and 1) Only 5 minutes, 2) Only 1 respawn!!!

Why did they ruin the ranked matches.

Jud0ka

Man, Who knows how much people would complain if they played a real tactical shooter like Raven Shield.

lol yup. LMS game types rule! mainly why I play graw so much more tactical, cant run and gun. looks like RB6V2 is gonna be my kinda thing. as long as they fixed the lag issues.

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#29 cronew1
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I never played the original but the single respawn makes sense to me

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#30 Bloodbath_87
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Meh, I like the other game types better anyway.
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#31 Xeros606
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copied from my other thread:

did they wrap up the story?

is there a matchmaking mode like in halo/cod4?

are the new weapons radically different from the old ones? do they change the gameplay?

what maps are returning?

did they ruin attack/defend?

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#32 ag1002
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um I don't know about ranked... but player matches are perfectly fine.
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#33 killerfist
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well honestly im happy with that and sad at the same time.

1. promotes better team work and tactics, since now you get punished for running in guns blazing

2. makes spawn camping impossible ( to my happiness and dismay)

3. there weren't respawns in the older rainbow six days and now ppl who want an infinite amount of chances to try and make different mistakes each time can go play Halo of COD4

ceells87

I agree 100% they just made it more hardcore and less Noobfriendly. every match in RB6v was about who's getting to the other teams spawn first. I hate that and Im glad they did something about it.

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#34 garrrig666
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people who want infinite respawns are just people with no skill i have no prob with 1 respawn because i have skill all i need is one life go play cod 4 if you just want to run and gun and not try to play with skill..
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#35 zero9167
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No respawns would have been better. Back to the way it was in rainbow six 3. Oh man was that game great.
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people who want infinite respawns are just people with no skill i have no prob with 1 respawn because i have skill all i need is one life go play cod 4 if you just want to run and gun and not try to play with skill..garrrig666
aren't you so cool....
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#37 tomjay31
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what did they do? nothing besides get rid of retrieval (damn it)! and it's a shame.
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#38 forgetwatyahear
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what did they do? nothing besides get rid of retrieval (damn it)! and it's a shame.tomjay31
did you read the first post?
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#39 decepticondevil
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Is the bullet lag bad? I'm getting really @#&$ing sick of unloading clips into guys faces in COD4 just to watch the kill cam and see myself shooting in an entirely different direction while the guys I was hitting directly on my screen from 2 feet away has time to line up his shot, dink a cup of coffee, smoke a cigarette, then one shot me in the head.... when I'm only one bar short of a full connection.
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#40 killerfist
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Is the bullet lag bad? I'm getting really @#&$ing sick of unloading clips into guys faces in COD4 just to watch the kill cam and see myself shooting in an entirely different direction while the guys I was hitting directly on my screen from 2 feet away has time to line up his shot, dink a cup of coffee, smoke a cigarette, then one shot me in the head.... when I'm only one bar short of a full connection.decepticondevil

that because of the time difference. 1pm CET is like 9am PMT...

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#41 MrYates808
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i loved the first vegas, but this one i'm def passing on, for this reason and for the fact that it offers very little new to what was on the first one.luigismansion101
You are exactly right. This was put togather with the exact same engine, it might as well be an EXPANSION pack to R6V 1
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#42 LaNoOm
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So what does this mean for online play? Will everyone from Rainbow Six 1 still be switching over to RS2? Or will the community be divided?
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#43 theandy2000
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Its so stupid. Im pissed off now.Matt2556

shouldn't you be playing CoD4 anyways. R6 is a thinking man's game.

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#44 lockjaw333
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what did they do? nothing besides get rid of retrieval (damn it)! and it's a shame.tomjay31
Did they really axe retrieval? That was a fun gametype. To all of you complaining about single respawns, two things: 1) There are lots of different gametypes, so I'm relatively certain you were just playing a single-respawn gametype. 2) Single death is what Rainbow Six was founded on. Single death TDM was the way EVERYONE played back in the day on the PC Rainbow games. It wasn't until it moves to consoles that this respawn nonsense crept in. Seriously, just try playing single death matches for a bit, and you'll see how the game is really meant to be played. Its a far more tactical and tense experience if you play this way.
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#45 killerfist
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[QUOTE="tomjay31"]what did they do? nothing besides get rid of retrieval (damn it)! and it's a shame.lockjaw333
Did they really axe retrieval? That was a fun gametype. To all of you complaining about single respawns, two things: 1) There are lots of different gametypes, so I'm relatively certain you were just playing a single-respawn gametype. 2) Single death is what Rainbow Six was founded on. Single death TDM was the way EVERYONE played back in the day on the PC Rainbow games. It wasn't until it moves to consoles that this respawn nonsense crept in. Seriously, just try playing single death matches for a bit, and you'll see how the game is really meant to be played. Its a far more tactical and tense experience if you play this way.

agreed. I just hope the spawnkilling dissapears now.

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#46 shaunchgo
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Yeah, I played MP last night and also got one or two re-spawns and I was sooo upset. So after to ranked matches, I only played unranked after that which provides unlimited re-spawns. I didn't stand a chance in ranked matches - i'm used to the run and gun of COD4's MP - RV6 (2) is more tactical.
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#47 ceells87
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good god has halo and COD4 really spoiled kids this much. I havent heard this much complaining since I was in highschool and the gils hit their periods. Oh boohoo you get killed once and the game ends in 5 minutes. God forbid if you can get more matchs out of the day and earn more experiance and play with more ppl. I'd hate to have to keep spawn camping you till you finally quit. We need a time machine and send these kids back to the good ol RS days of the single lives and make them stay there till they get over their little hissy fits and grow the hell up
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#48 luigismansion101
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people who want infinite respawns are just people with no skill i have no prob with 1 respawn because i have skill all i need is one life go play cod 4 if you just want to run and gun and not try to play with skill..garrrig666

some of the people, like myself, want more than one respawn so we can get more than 5 kills in a match why go 5 and 0 when you could go 27 and 0 (which i've done numerous times on CoD4 and R6V1). at least player matches weren't messed up, but i'd rather play ranked than unranked. team deathmatch has always been about respawning, team survival is where the tactical element of not getting killed should be/stay at.

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#49 nebagaman4life
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Though there isnt more than one respawn in team death match, people need to appreciate RB6V2 for what it is. It is way more ballanced that COD4 (you can survive not using just the M16 with reflex scope), its a little slower paced, but with a added value of the intensity of each round, its not meant to be an arcade game. It takes time to level up and that makes it more worthwhile when you do unlock something sick (I cannot wait fot eh MP7)
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#50 luc11044
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[QUOTE="luigismansion101"]i loved the first vegas, but this one i'm def passing on, for this reason and for the fact that it offers very little new to what was on the first one.MrYates808
You are exactly right. This was put togather with the exact same engine, it might as well be an EXPANSION pack to R6V 1

same here... I'll keep playing the first one. They rushed this one out.