WTF Forge sounds terrible!!!

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#1 davaad
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Ok, from what I've been hearing, in Halo 3 with the new "Forge" map editor, you can edit the maps IN GAME?

 So say you're playing a multiplayer match with your friends and you're running towards the rocket launcher; someone on the other team could just move it away from you? Or they could spawn a bunch of rockets/snipers right next to all of their teammates?

 

This sounds awful!!! It's going to totally ruin any sort of balance the developers tried to include in the maps!

 

Please tell me I'm wrong about forge. I thought it was a map editor that you could use _before_ you played a match.  

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#2 Shade-Blade
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Lol, youve been hearing wrong as far as I know. I wont use Forge much because Im not much into map editing but Ill do it occasionally.

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#3 Sup11722
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if you havent played garrys mod it would make sense to you
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#4 Giff1988
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From what I gathered the host has the option to turn that feature off or on, and is only capable while your building the map. Once you finalze and lock it in I dont think it could be tampered. (That was my interpertation I may be wrong)

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#5 akuma303x
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the fact that the game will change on the fly and make you use better and evolving tactics makes me think it will only help.
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#6 davaad
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This sounds totally stupid though; now it won't be like Halo multiplayer at all!

 

You could move the spawn points so that they are all right next to a teammate with rockets, for example, and then when anyone dies they automatically get spawn killed. 

 

If multiplayer is going to be like that I don't even want to buy Halo 3... 

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#7 Silentwarrior27
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thats only in custom games and if u want it on..
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#8 davaad
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Ohhhhhh, I get it now. 

 

The forge isn't a player/ranked match at all. It's only the forge.

You can have a bunch of people messing around while in the forge, but scores/kills/rank isn't tracked and stuff because it isn't a match.  

 

 

Then when you play a real player/ranked match the rules are set (whether they are custom or not) and you can't edit on the fly.

 

That actually sounds ok! 

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#9 davaad
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No, I'm not an idiot. The fact that the forge is completely separate from matches wasn't exactly clear to me.
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#10 Clinton015
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too bad u have no idea what ur talkin about
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#11 davaad
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I do know what I'm talking about now. 

I found the new bungie podcast that talks about it and realized that forge is not a match.

 

Like, if you want to go play a player match or play some ranked playlists, you can do that.

If you want to play around with forge, you can do that as well.

 

You can use the maps that you designed with forge _in_ a player match, but messing around in forge is completely separate from matches.

 

That's why you can do whatever you want; forge is just for fun. Player/ranked matches are real.  

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#12 Gokuja
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From what I gathered the host has the option to turn that feature off or on, and is only capable while your building the map. Once you finalze and lock it in I dont think it could be tampered. (That was my interpertation I may be wrong)

Giff1988

i think you are wrong. from what i read it said that a player can turn into a monitor and if you see someone running up to a tank or weapon, you can remove it b4 they get there.

and the host has the option to let everyone be able to do it, or just the host.

also there is a dollar limit. everything costs something so there is a limit to what, and how many you can place. it sounds very creative and just something to mess around with

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#13 lordking65
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stop complaining and go play your little "Slayer" while the rest of us have fun and be unfair with forge
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#14 ag1002
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just think of it as a gamemode/map editor
you and your friends can play around with it, you can edit the map and play on it at the same time. its seperate from . you're not going to be playing team slayer and then suddenly a computer thing flies around your head and starts throwing tanks at you.

and NICE I JUST GOT AN EMAIL... WELCOMING ME TO THE COD4 BETA
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#15 ivanivan
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http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/video-exclu-3-gc-2007-presentation-video-42440.html

Heres a video showing it off and from what they're saying it seems pretty cool to me. Even if you don't like it doesn't mean you're going to be forced to play it or anything.

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#16 YourLastDay86
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That can't be right b/c that would be the absolute worst online experience. Ever.
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#17 CptBloodood
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omg go buy half life 2 then download garrys mod, thats what itll be like except halo style......or look it up on youtube. even the designer dood in the interview said it was gunna be like garrys mod, and if you havent heard of garrys mod yet yur livin' under a rock sry to say.....
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#18 ROFLcopter_69
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Ok, from what I've been hearing, in Halo 3 with the new "Forge" map editor, you can edit the maps IN GAME?

So say you're playing a multiplayer match with your friends and you're running towards the rocket launcher; someone on the other team could just move it away from you? Or they could spawn a bunch of rockets/snipers right next to all of their teammates?

This sounds awful!!! It's going to totally ruin any sort of balance the developers tried to include in the maps!

Please tell me I'm wrong about forge. I thought it was a map editor that you could use _before_ you played a match.

davaad

you are wrong about forge, it'll be fun, you can make forts out of crates and explosive barrel towers, its gonna be awsome for online vids of crazy stunts and people getting ownd by huge explosions

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#19 Shrapnel99
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Forge sounds absolutely great to me, and there will obviously be an option to turn it off, so it doesn't really matter much if you like it or not.
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#20 secondomen
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Ok, from what I've been hearing, in Halo 3 with the new "Forge" map editor, you can edit the maps IN GAME?

So say you're playing a multiplayer match with your friends and you're running towards the rocket launcher; someone on the other team could just move it away from you? Or they could spawn a bunch of rockets/snipers right next to all of their teammates?

This sounds awful!!! It's going to totally ruin any sort of balance the developers tried to include in the maps!

Please tell me I'm wrong about forge. I thought it was a map editor that you could use _before_ you played a match.

davaad

From what Ive read YES, you could be in a vehicle and the other players could yank it right out from under u and spawn turrets on top of u. Sounds like chaotic goodness if u are playing w/ friends or an extreme annoyance playing w/ asshats.

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#21 ROFLcopter_69
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i thonk forge will be separate from multi but u will be able 2 invite people into it
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#22 tigerfan17
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I do know what I'm talking about now.

I found the new bungie podcast that talks about it and realized that forge is not a match.

Like, if you want to go play a player match or play some ranked playlists, you can do that.

If you want to play around with forge, you can do that as well.

You can use the maps that you designed with forge _in_ a player match, but messing around in forge is completely separate from matches.

That's why you can do whatever you want; forge is just for fun. Player/ranked matches are real.

davaad

Exactly, it's just a fun, new, innovative, feature that you can just mess around with.

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#23 lordking65
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if you think Forge sounds terrible, stick with halo 2
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Ok, from what I've been hearing, in Halo 3 with the new "Forge" map editor, you can edit the maps IN GAME?

So say you're playing a multiplayer match with your friends and you're running towards the rocket launcher; someone on the other team could just move it away from you? Or they could spawn a bunch of rockets/snipers right next to all of their teammates?

This sounds awful!!! It's going to totally ruin any sort of balance the developers tried to include in the maps!

Please tell me I'm wrong about forge. I thought it was a map editor that you could use _before_ you played a match.

davaad

I thought you could only use forge in between rounds but if you can use it while playing thats weird.

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#26 MichaeltheCM
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i doubt its IN GAME but that would be cool to custom make maps
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#27 Owen349
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to all the ppl that are like oh no i dont like this ... ur stupid u can kill the ppl editing the map so spawn yourself a sniper rifle and have some fun killing what ever they can place in front of u.
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#28 wreak
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you can't use it in matchmaking.....

you have to actually start like a custome forge game w/ yer friends for when you WANT to screw around. you can also just go into a map and change stuff by yerself and save those settings for later games....

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#29 wanker12
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it sounds a bit different, i'll reserve judgment until i play it though.
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#30 sonofabear17
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This sounds totally stupid though; now it won't be like Halo multiplayer at all!

 

You could move the spawn points so that they are all right next to a teammate with rockets, for example, and then when anyone dies they automatically get spawn killed. 

 

If multiplayer is going to be like that I don't even want to buy Halo 3... 

davaad
.....then dont use forge its that simple
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#31 Super-Skunk420
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Wow this thread made me crack up at first... then I just got agitated about how naive and ignorant you really are.

Forge is a stand alone multiplayer aspect, meaning it's not a direct part of custom matches, nor is it any part of matchmaking and ranked games. Forge is a game in itself where you can manipulate almost eveything map designers could do with theirtools, except formap geometry.You can save maps you have edited in forge aswell, and play them in custom matches. Of course you could have read some info on the internet before making such a stupid thread, and I wouldn't have to rant at 2am. You suck, read more./

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#32 deactivated-5a155dd59341e
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Why is everyone replying to the TC's initial posts, when he clearly states that he thinks differently now, and likes the idea?
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#33 lordking65
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thats the whole point of Forge, to be unfair!
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#34 stygiansanity
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you make it sound like if you think it it will happen. Moving the stuff around isn't instantaneous, but it should be interesting to see everyone in scorpions and what not :P
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#35 Sykoh
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Ok I think what the guy was thinking was that Forge could be turned on at anytime in any multiplayer game.

So to clear this up, Forge is its own gametype, so you can't do Forge while playing Custom games or Ranked games. Also,Forge only allows 8 people to be in the party unlike Custom or Ranked where you can have 16 people. You can however take whatever you did in Forge and play it in Custom games with 16 people.