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#1 soapman72
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Ok Well I have just pre ordered the game and I am not hearing bery good things from people. Like oh it's the same thing every year! I agree but i have played BF Since 1942 and Well it has not changed that much either so what do you guys think about MW3 will it be good?

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#2 Ghost_702
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Considering it's part of a series why would anyone expect it to drastically change year after year? If I want to play something other than Call of Duty, then I will. I don't like when people use that as an argument against the game. Anyways, I think the game will be good because I enjoyed the first two so I see little reason how it could become worse.
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#4 0_demo_0
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I think it will be fun. I am getting BF3 and MW3 at some point, well after I put a good amount of time into Skyrim. :)

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#5 orb_03_2006
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Garbage. It's going to be the same game, but with a few tweaks. I honestly hate Activision. I honestly laugh really hard whn they say their developers "Put their heart and soul into it." lmao NO. They're copying what someone else did. There's nothing there but revamped crap. Anyways, I'm waiting for Skyrim. Will be more fun and better in every way.
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#6 elpooz
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It will be an alright game. Black Ops was MUCH better than MW2 and I don't see MW3 topping it. They basically took the most hated perk from BO (Ghost) and made it more powerful. Nothing can see Assassin in MW3 unless someone uses the Recon perk to spot them, and that's just dumb. At least the Blackbirds in BO countered them. There are several things similar to what I just mentioned that will keep this game from being great.

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#7 Aaron89
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I think it'll be great.

This and Gears 3 will be enough to hold me until GTA:V probably. :)

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#8 hkymike
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Looking forward to it, going to enjoy playing both Battlefield and MW3
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#9 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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I bought it last week on amazon uk, but don't have that much hype for it... I played to death MW2 and am kinda bored with it...

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#10 HilbillyRokstar
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New coat of paint on the same ol' game. S.S.D.D.
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#11 UprootedDreamer
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I wonder if it's going to be another short campaign mode.
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#12 HilbillyRokstar
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Considering it's part of a series why would anyone expect it to drastically change year after year? If I want to play something other than Call of Duty, then I will. I don't like when people use that as an argument against the game. Anyways, I think the game will be good because I enjoyed the first two so I see little reason how it could become worse. Ghost_702
Yea, but there's no excuse for the lack of a new game engine and dedicated servers. That's just Activision being lazy. They need to move past the modified Quake 2 engine and get one developed with THIS decades technology.
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#13 Aaron89
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[QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Considering it's part of a series why would anyone expect it to drastically change year after year? If I want to play something other than Call of Duty, then I will. I don't like when people use that as an argument against the game. Anyways, I think the game will be good because I enjoyed the first two so I see little reason how it could become worse. HilbillyRokstar
Yea, but there's no excuse for the lack of a new game engine and dedicated servers. That's just Activision being lazy. They need to move past the modified Quake 2 engine and get one developed with THIS decades technology.

I agree with that to an extent, Hilbilly, but I have to say they (i.e. Activision) did the right thing.

- The modified engine runs great and the graphics are not horrible; why spend the resources to implement a new one?
- While dedicated servers would be nice, I find the game runs fine on P2P. Any decent connection is enough to have lag-free (or appear to be lag-free) gameplay. The vast majority of players would barely notice the upgrade. Again, why would the spend the resources other than for PC players that demanded it?
- The core mechanics should not change dramatically - that's what makes CoD a CoD game. No need to piss off existing users and potentially hurt sales.

All-in-all, Activision did what was best for their company. It's a decent upgrade from MW2 and it will surely sell millions.

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#14 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]Considering it's part of a series why would anyone expect it to drastically change year after year? If I want to play something other than Call of Duty, then I will. I don't like when people use that as an argument against the game. Anyways, I think the game will be good because I enjoyed the first two so I see little reason how it could become worse. Aaron89

Yea, but there's no excuse for the lack of a new game engine and dedicated servers. That's just Activision being lazy. They need to move past the modified Quake 2 engine and get one developed with THIS decades technology.

I agree with that to an extent, Hilbilly, but I have to say they (i.e. Activision) did the right thing.

- The modified engine runs great and the graphics are not horrible; why spend the resources to implement a new one?
- While dedicated servers would be nice, I find the game runs fine on P2P. Any decent connection is enough to have lag-free (or appear to be lag-free) gameplay. The vast majority of players would barely notice the upgrade. Again, why would the spend the resources other than for PC players that demanded it?
- The core mechanics should not change dramatically - that's what makes CoD a CoD game. No need to piss off existing users and potentially hurt sales.

All-in-all, Activision did what was best for their company. It's a decent upgrade from MW2 and it will surely sell millions.

I never said they should change the core mechanics. I just think they should work harder to deliver a quality product, which means reinvesting capitol into thing like new game engines and dedicated servers. Nor did I ever say they should do things like destructible environments and team based gameplay, although if they want to recruit new players to the fold they would, even if it's in an all new game mode. What's wrong with giving the people what they want, and increasing your market share at the same time?

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#15 Aaron89
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I never said they should change the core mechanics. I just think they should work harder to deliver a quality product, which means reinvesting capitol into thing like new game engines and dedicated servers. Nor did I ever say they should do things like destructible environments and team based gameplay, although if they want to recruit new players to the fold they would, even if it's in an all new game mode. What's wrong with giving the people what they want, and increasing your market share at the same time?

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Oh the core mechanics point was just general ... wasn't really to directly refute what you said (but I see how that looked). And yeah ... I never mentioned destructible environments and team-based gameplay either although I think things are getting a little mixed up lol.

Like I mentioned mate, I do partially agree with you because I would love some new exciting things/features in MW3, but they played it safe and really no one can blame them (they will be on Top #1 Game on XBL for awhile..).

At this point, $100k in advertising has a much higher ROI than $100k towards a new engine.

Maybe next MW. :)

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#16 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]I never said they should change the core mechanics. I just think they should work harder to deliver a quality product, which means reinvesting capitol into thing like new game engines and dedicated servers. Nor did I ever say they should do things like destructible environments and team based gameplay, although if they want to recruit new players to the fold they would, even if it's in an all new game mode. What's wrong with giving the people what they want, and increasing your market share at the same time?

Aaron89

Oh the core mechanics point was just general ... wasn't really to directly refute what you said (but I see how that looked). And yeah ... I never mentioned destructible environments and team-based gameplay either although I think things are getting a little mixed up lol.

Like I mentioned mate, I do partially agree with you because I would love some new exciting things/features in MW3, but they played it safe and really no one can blame them (they will be on Top #1 Game on XBL for awhile..).

At this point, $100k in advertising has a much higher ROI than $100k towards a new engine.

Maybe next MW. :)

I just think had they not screwed over and run off the collective genius behind CoD4, we would have seen much more creativity and quality with this franchise. The main complaints West and Zampella had concerned how they were constrained in the development of the series, after all.

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#17 SavageKantus
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I'm going to like it since it's fun with friends. (IMO)
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#18 k2theswiss
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wheres the option it be good? great is little over board and ok sounds like a 7/10

I get sick of hearing people say stupid stuff about it.

LIKE any other game.

It comes with a new SP

it comes with new MP

MORE people like a game more people going bash it.NOW a game sells 20 million copys. YOU think the devs could do little extra for it's fan base. BUT w/e thats different story.

THis year i have to give them credit for not releaseing some $150 toy. There limited edition is worth something.

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#19 driftingsilvia
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There's one single problem with a dedicated server over a p2p server. When you're running on a dedicated server, if that server crashes or whatever, noone can play. However with p2p, the host crash and finds a new host, everyone goes back to the game.

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#20 Overlord93
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It's a cross between cod4 and MW2. They have removed stopping power and improved balance. It's should be good fun, just like every single CoD game is. Don't let all the pressure and negativity get to you, most of it is just fanboys wanting to hate on CoD because it has got so big.
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#21 HilbillyRokstar
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wheres the option it be good? great is little over board and ok sounds like a 7/10

I get sick of hearing people say stupid stuff about it.

LIKE any other game.

It comes with a new SP

it comes with new MP

MORE people like a game more people going bash it.NOW a game sells 20 million copys. YOU think the devs could do little extra for it's fan base. BUT w/e thats different story.

THis year i have to give them credit for not releaseing some $150 toy. There limited edition is worth something.

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Yeah, coz having special founder status in CoD Elite means a LOT more than a functional pair nightvision goggles.
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#22 k2theswiss
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

wheres the option it be good? great is little over board and ok sounds like a 7/10

I get sick of hearing people say stupid stuff about it.

LIKE any other game.

It comes with a new SP

it comes with new MP

MORE people like a game more people going bash it.NOW a game sells 20 million copys. YOU think the devs could do little extra for it's fan base. BUT w/e thats different story.

THis year i have to give them credit for not releaseing some $150 toy. There limited edition is worth something.

HilbillyRokstar

Yeah, coz having special founder status in CoD Elite means a LOT more than a functional pair nightvision goggles.

Your so right.

Want know the truth? insted getting a toy that will be in (your) TOY room. You get to save

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#23 JayQproductions
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It will be an alright game. Black Ops was MUCH better than MW2 and I don't see MW3 topping it. They basically took the most hated perk from BO (Ghost) and made it more powerful. Nothing can see Assassin in MW3 unless someone uses the Recon perk to spot them, and that's just dumb. At least the Blackbirds in BO countered them. There are several things similar to what I just mentioned that will keep this game from being great.

elpooz

How did they make it more powerful? In MW3 you need 2 seperate perks to be completely hidden from killstreaks.

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#24 MathMattS
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All of your current FPSs are like each other in one way or another.

I don't think COD is the same game every year, as every installment has different locales, new characters, different scenarios, different or new storylines (or new twists to them), etc, at least in the campaign. I think the multiplayer is pretty much the same from game to game. But the campaign is what makes COD worthwhile, IMO. I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens to Soap and MacTavish. I believe you also play as a Russian security agent this time, so I'm eager to see what the devs did with that.

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#25 elpooz
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

It will be an alright game. Black Ops was MUCH better than MW2 and I don't see MW3 topping it. They basically took the most hated perk from BO (Ghost) and made it more powerful. Nothing can see Assassin in MW3 unless someone uses the Recon perk to spot them, and that's just dumb. At least the Blackbirds in BO countered them. There are several things similar to what I just mentioned that will keep this game from being great.

JayQproductions

How did they make it more powerful? In MW3 you need 2 seperate perks to be completely hidden from killstreaks.

It makes you invisible to hearbeat sensors, UAV, portable radar and thermal and then also stops counters and EMPs from messing with your HUD and mini-map AND removes the crosshairs from above your head. In comparison to the perks in its tier, it is extremely overpowered. It's like having 2-3 perks in one...

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#26 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="JayQproductions"]

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

It will be an alright game. Black Ops was MUCH better than MW2 and I don't see MW3 topping it. They basically took the most hated perk from BO (Ghost) and made it more powerful. Nothing can see Assassin in MW3 unless someone uses the Recon perk to spot them, and that's just dumb. At least the Blackbirds in BO countered them. There are several things similar to what I just mentioned that will keep this game from being great.

elpooz

How did they make it more powerful? In MW3 you need 2 seperate perks to be completely hidden from killstreaks.

It makes you invisible to hearbeat sensors, UAV, portable radar and thermal and then also stops counters and EMPs from messing with your HUD and mini-map AND removes the crosshairs from above your head. In comparison to the perks in its tier, it is extremely overpowered. It's like having 2-3 perks in one...

Ghost was only overused in blackops because spy plane was so overpowered. Since killstreaks now stack, much fewer people will use it.
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#27 elpooz
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[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="JayQproductions"]

How did they make it more powerful? In MW3 you need 2 seperate perks to be completely hidden from killstreaks.

Overlord93

It makes you invisible to hearbeat sensors, UAV, portable radar and thermal and then also stops counters and EMPs from messing with your HUD and mini-map AND removes the crosshairs from above your head. In comparison to the perks in its tier, it is extremely overpowered. It's like having 2-3 perks in one...

Ghost was only overused in blackops because spy plane was so overpowered. Since killstreaks now stack, much fewer people will use it.

That's not true. Bad players (the majority of CoD players) are going to be drawn right to the Support Strike Package, which is basically ALL recon-related stuff... UAVs, Counters, Advanced UAV, etc... because you don't have to go on killstreaks when you use it, you just have to get enough kills for each killstreak. So, you can get a kill die, get a kill, die, get a kill, die, and then have a UAV available to you. Support is going to be used non-stop, which means counters, UAVs, and Advanced UAVs are going to be everywhere, ESPECIALLY since they will be easier to get since you don't actually have to go on killstreaks, and that will lead to Assassin being an overused perk. Even if that wasn't the case, the pro version does like 6 things, while the other perks in the tier only do 3 things at most when turned pro. It's overpowered.

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#28 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

It makes you invisible to hearbeat sensors, UAV, portable radar and thermal and then also stops counters and EMPs from messing with your HUD and mini-map AND removes the crosshairs from above your head. In comparison to the perks in its tier, it is extremely overpowered. It's like having 2-3 perks in one...

elpooz

Ghost was only overused in blackops because spy plane was so overpowered. Since killstreaks now stack, much fewer people will use it.

That's not true. Bad players (the majority of CoD players) are going to be drawn right to the Support Strike Package, which is basically ALL recon-related stuff... UAVs, Counters, Advanced UAV, etc... because you don't have to go on killstreaks when you use it, you just have to get enough kills for each killstreak. So, you can get a kill die, get a kill, die, get a kill, die, and then have a UAV available to you. Support is going to be used non-stop, which means counters, UAVs, and Advanced UAVs are going to be everywhere, ESPECIALLY since they will be easier to get since you don't actually have to go on killstreaks, and that will lead to Assassin being an overused perk. Even if that wasn't the case, the pro version does like 6 things, while the other perks in the tier only do 3 things at most when turned pro. It's overpowered.

When I think about it like that, you may be right. But remember that assassin occupies the same slot as overkill, which imo will be used a lot. And also as quickdraw, since SoH pro has been almost a required perk in the last couple of CoDs it's the only perk left in the game that shortens killtime.

I think we'll have to wait and see. Most CoD players don't care about their teammates, and will want kills for themselves. I reckon fewer people will use uav than you think.

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Call of Duty:we ran out of wars so just run around and shoot the **** out of eachother

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Ultimate suckage. Unless you're 13. Then it's about as awesome as that ringpop on your finger.

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#31 DJSAV_101
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It should be good.

i honestly don't care that "its the same thing over again". It works, its fun and it gives me something else to play with friends other than Gears 3.

Looking forward to playing Spec Ops the most.

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#32 HilbillyRokstar
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It should be good.

i honestly don't care that "its the same thing over again". It works, its fun and it gives me something else to play with friends other than Gears 3.

Looking forward to playing Spec Ops the most.

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We can agree about the "something else to play with friends" part. That's about the only reason I would ever buy another CoD game..
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#33 nightshadow137
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i bet its gonna be awesome

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#34 lge777
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Considering it's part of a series why would anyone expect it to drastically change year after year? If I want to play something other than Call of Duty, then I will. I don't like when people use that as an argument against the game. Anyways, I think the game will be good because I enjoyed the first two so I see little reason how it could become worse. Ghost_702

Why would it have a drastic change ??? That formual is great it's by far the best shooter out ,proof is in the amount of players on XBL/PSN that top the list of most played online game every week, and it's a on going story line.

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#35 SaintJimmmy
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its gonna be solid like all cods, not great but not bad
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#36 combatwombat500
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im done with cod, but if they do change the multiplayer i go back to it
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#37 Jluloff
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So over it now...same thing over and over..will not buy another
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#38 idill23
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it will be great. (online wise)

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#39 simomate
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Garbage. It's going to be the same game, but with a few tweaks. I honestly hate Activision. I honestly laugh really hard whn they say their developers "Put their heart and soul into it." lmao NO. They're copying what someone else did. There's nothing there but revamped crap. Anyways, I'm waiting for Skyrim. Will be more fun and better in every way.orb_03_2006
This is exactly what i keep telling people... but they dont listen do they?
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#40 dl429
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I was lucky enough to get a copy yesterday off craiglist and I can promise you its a great game. The single player so far is vintage MW. Lots of crazy notstop action, like a Schwarzenegger 80s movie. Multiplayer seems more balanced than ever. Kinda like the took the best from MW2 and COD4 and added balance. Ive only made it to about 25 but there are already many people who have prestige already. Bottomline, if you are a COD fan you wont be dissappointed.

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#41 elpooz
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All the big CoD Youtube commentators got it early and have been posting 1st impressions. They are basically saying the following:

Camping is minimal.

Lots of gun-on-gun action.

Maps are smaller and generally promote close quarters or midrange gun fights.

Not a lot of camp spots on each map, so less rooms, elevated towers or buildings, and what not, than there were in previous CoD games.

Not much elevation at all, so everyone is usually on the same plane and you won't find yourself constantly looking up into windows where people are headglitching.

Way less BS than MW2 (noobtubes suck now, knifing is nerfed in comparison to MW2, etc...).

Assassin is an overpowered perk.

Sounds like it'll be a lot better than MW2, but MW2 was broken and pretty bad imo, so that doesn't say much. I am excited by how much they are saying it plays fast-paced and gun-on-gun like MW1, though.

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#42 brimmul777
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I think it will be worth the $59.99 plus taxes I will buy for it.In my opinion,of course.