9 More Avengers: Endgame Theories We Were Wrong About
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Either you've seen Avengers: Endgame by now or you are planning on seeing it very soon. Marvel's latest film is talk of the town and already breaking box office records. The hype is real and over the course of the past few months, I've been making some bold predictions about the movie. Now that I've seen it, I can truly see how wrong I was, and it's time to let everyone else know the results.
Below, you'll find our original predictions for Avengers: Endgame, originally made back in March, and updates to whether we were right or wrong. We had much better luck with our predictions on this one, coming in at 55% with 5/9 correct, unlike our insane theories, where we failed miserably, and our other February theories. In total, throughout the three piece, we got 9/23 predictions correct.
Warning: From this point on, there are some Endgame spoilers, so if you're not ready for them, check out our spoiler-free review instead.
As far as Endgame goes, we have many less embarrassing pieces for you to read:
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- Endgame Spoiler Review
- Endgame Has No Post-Credits, But There Is Something At The End
- What Do We Know About Phase 4 Of The MCU?
- Captain America's Ending Ruins Avengers: Endgame
Original story and predictions below.
Like an RKO--out of nowhere--a second trailer for Avengers: Endgame dropped on the morning of March 14, which surprised everyone. It gave viewers a much better look at what is happening in the MCU after everyone was dusted off by Thanos in Infinity War. We also learned what other superheroes will show up in the movie who haven't appeared in previous videos.
That got us thinking about where Endgame could go. We put our sleuthing caps on, while trapped in our secret underground bunker, and found evidence--some convincing and some not--that suggests Endgame might go in a very different direction than we originally thought.
Some of these theories are as obvious as, "These people aren't around because they got dusted off screen" to as ridiculous as, "Everyone is a Skrull." However, because of these new speculations about Endgame, it undoes a few of our original theories from the first Endgame trailer.
We're kicking things off with the most plausible theories and going deeper down the rabbit hole of insanity from there. It's going to get a little weird, so be prepared. Additionally, there are a few Captain Marvel spoilers weaved into some of these theories.
Avengers: Endgame releases in theaters on April 26, and make sure to check out the latest poster for the upcoming movie.
1. Hawkeye's Family Has Been Dusted
Were we right?: Yes! The movie opens up with Hawkeye realizing his family is gone.
Original prediction below:
The latest trailer gave us more Hawkeye and not just Clint in his Ronin outfit looking sad. We got to see him with what seems to be his daughter, practicing archery. She hits a bullseye, they high five, and then she gets dusted. Well, we don't see the young girl get erased from existence, but that's where it will happen. At this point, we can only assume the transition from family man under house arrest--you can see his ankle monitor in the trailer, over his pants (that's weird)--to guy with a mohawk and nothing left to lose is because he literally lost everything.
That kind of destroys my whole theory from last time that Ronin was the real Clint Barton and the one we met was a Skrull. Actually, if you've seen Captain Marvel, my whole Skrull theory is out the window anyway.
2. Scott Lang Was Trapped In The Quantum Realm For A Couple Months
Were we right?: Yes, as long as you don't mind adding 4 years and 10 more months to that prediction. Lang was gone for 5 years in total, but it was only 5 hours for him.
Original prediction below:
There is a shot in the trailer of Scott Lang looking at a street post with missing persons signs on it. Scott looks confused because we're assuming he's just returned from the Quantum Realm and is trying to make sense of people disappearing. That's because he wasn't around during the dusting. We know he was trapped in the Quantum Realm because of the post-credit sequence in Ant-Man And The Wasp. But how long was he actually gone?
Because the signs on the posts look a little sun faded, and the weeds in the yard behind Scott are looking a bit overgrown, I'm thinking Scott has been in the Quantum Realm for a couple months before making it out. These posted signs wouldn't be as much of a shock to Scott if he had been on Earth since they were originally put up. He wouldn't be shocked by them. How did Scott get out of the Quantum Realm though? With a little help from Doctor Strange.
3. Endgame Takes Place Over The Course Of One Year Or More
Were we right?: Yes. This is kind of a cheat though. I was super into Black Widow's hair in a trailer. I obsessed over it. The movie starts at the end of Infinity War and then jumps to five years later, so while I was technically correct, it doesn't feel like a win, since most of the movie took place over what felt like days.
Original prediction below:
According to a 2005 study, caucasian female's hair grows five inches a year. "Mat, why are you talking about hair?" Shut up and hear me out. Take a look at that picture above. Natasha has been growing out her hair, and all feels right with the world. But, wait a minute, there are still some blonde tips. In total, it looks like there's an extra eight inches of hair, which would mean that from the first trailer, where her hair is just starting to grow out, to this scene, and the ones that follow it, about a year and a half has passed.
Think about how crazy that is in the grand scheme of things. Most of these Marvel movies take place over a few days or weeks--or at most, a month. Infinity War's story was maybe two weeks at tops, but Endgame's story is so large that the characters live out more than a year trying to bring resolution to it.
4. Tony Stark Dies On Earth When His Ship Crashes
Were we right?: Nope. Yeah, we got the fact right that Tony Stark dies, but the ship never crashes.
Original prediction below:
We know that Nebula and Tony Stark are on a ship, stranded in space. It's obvious that they'll make it back to Earth, as we see the wreckage on fire in one scene; however, I propose that only one of them will make it back alive, and it won't be Stark. And that's why Nebula is so mad in the trailer.
Look, we all know Robert Downey Jr. is on his way out, and that there will be some very real deaths by the end of Endgame. But what if, as a total surprise, Nebula and Stark's ship gets shot out of the sky, and Iron Man doesn't make it out alive? His final message to Pepper Potts feels like foreshadowing, and there is nothing more shocking to the viewer than a character biting the dust halfway through the movie. Sure, Stark appears in the fancy new costumes toward the end of the trailer, but Marvel has a knack for lying to us in its teasers. Stark's addition is merely a red herring. He won't appear in that scene. He's dead.
5. The Quantum Realm Is The Secret To Everything
Were we right?: Yes! It's how the team travels through time.
Original prediction below:
The Quantum Realm--originally introduced in Ant-Man, seen in its sequel, and briefly glimpsed in Doctor Strange--is more relevant to the MCU than we all think it is. Sure, it's a place that's only accessible by shrinking a lot or through mystic travel, but it is also a place where time and space are irrelevant. If time isn't a thing there, then--in theory--it could be used to travel forward and backward in it, right? At least, that's how I think this all works in the MCU.
Although Samuel L. Jackson stated Captain Marvel can travel through time, that doesn't mean she can bring other people along on the ride with her. Regardless, Jackson now says he made the whole thing up, but who knows what's true or not with Marvel actors slipping up and giving away plot points anymore? That's why the Quantum Realm will be how the New Avengers team goes back in time to stop Thanos. Yes, I'm still riding the theory that they have to do that.
6. Skrulls Show Up To Help
Were we right?: Nope. Not a Skrull in sight, that we know of.
Original prediction below:
The Captain Marvel movie introduced a shape-shifting alien species to the MCU, and it ended with Carol Danvers taking Talos and other Skrulls off into the cosmos. Most folks would write this off as a throwaway event, but I refuse to, especially when time travel is involved.
The Avengers going back in time to stop Thanos has been a popular theory, and not just with me. However, what better way to stop the Mad Titan than to infiltrate his Black Order? A few Skrulls will go with Captain Marvel on a side mission to go back in time--maybe through the Quantum Realm--and they will shapeshift into the Children of Thanos: Ebony Maw, Cull Obsidian, Proxima Midnight, and Corvus Glaive. Doing so will get them close to Thanos, and the Skrulls will be able to get inside information to the Avengers. Also, when you're close, it's easier to assassinate someone trying to kill half the life in the universe.
7. Reed Richards Made Those Fancy New Avengers Suits
Were we right?: Nope. This was a very bold prediction. These are suits for the Quantum Realm. That much I got correct, but Reed Richards had nothing to do with this. Marvel just acquired Fox, so why did I predict this?
Original prediction below:
Let's get a bit out there. The final shots of the trailer are the members of the Avengers in new red and white outfits. These suits have a similar design to Ant-Man's suit, which can shrink to a subatomic level, taking him to the Quantum Realm. So it stands to reason that these suits function this way as well. While we don't see Bruce Banner in these shots, he could have designed these, right?
What if it wasn't Bruce Banner designing these? He knows nothing about the Quantum Realm. What if another super-intelligent person entered the fray? One of the smartest people in the Marvel comic book universe is none other than Reed Richards, also known as the Fantastic Four's Mr. Fantastic. This may be a long shot, but the Fantastic Four are perfect characters for the MCU, and this would be the easiest way to introduce them to the world, now that the rights to these characters are back at Marvel. Also, these kind of look like Future Foundation outfits.
8. The Avengers Are Starting Over
Were we right?: Yes! The Avengers are in a rebuilding period; however, Vision and Black Widow, who are listen below, did not make the cut. They're both still dead. Black Widow's movie will be a prequel, and the Vision and Scarlet Witch Disney+ show will be... well, I don't know.
Original prediction below:
I think it's a very fair assumption to say that after Endgame, The Avengers will be in a rebuilding period. The team will exist, but most of the original Avengers will be gone. Many heroes will survive, but not all of them will be on the future Avengers team. Here's who I think will make the cut for the next Avengers installment:
- Captain Marvel
- Falcon
- Winter Soldier
- Black Widow
- Ant-Man
- War Machine
- Scarlet Witch
- Vision
- Shuri
- Spider-Man
9. Galactus Is Coming
Were we right?: No. I'm an idiot. I just wanted this to happen.
Original prediction below:
You can only raise the bar so much before it's impossible to raise it anymore, and the Avengers movies are pretty much there now. So what's next for the superhero team? Well, when it comes to the Marvel bad guys, there are a couple that come to mind. First is Kang, the time-travelling conqueror, but using him later down the line--when the Young Avengers exist--would make more sense, as Kang has ties to that team. Second, there's Galactus, the eater of worlds.
Ignoring what Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer did with the character--and also ignoring what Marvel's Ultimate Comics did with Galactus as well--the world is ready for a giant, purple-armored space man who eats planets. Heck, we saw Ego: The Living Planet in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, and that character, conceptually, is a lot more bonkers. A younger team of Avengers taking on an unbeatable cosmic being who wants to eat the Earth is a solid story, and since Marvel owns the rights to the Fantastic Four again, Galactus is good to go.