Gears 2 certainly looks nice but I'm gonna go ahead and claim that Dead Space looks better as far as overall quality goes.

Looks to me like Gears 2 follows the trend from the predecessor of having some bits of the impression look absolutely stunning while others look not so absolutely stunning.

 

I've yet to see any game provide gorgeous gfx across the board on any console though.

Mlauthemighty

Uncharted is pretty damn close, that game is absolutely stunning.

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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I thought PS3 had it for sure earlier this year even with the higher price. Then the worlds financial economy went to heck. Now a lot of people aren't concerned with quality or value, they just want cheap. And you can see it from the way that McDonalds sales have increased, Walmart sales have increased and Xbox sales have increased. Anything is possible in the future it's hard to say who will win. Either way both have a user base now and both can make money so thats good for everyone. mattbbpl

Americans are loyal to their brands; even if they are garbage.

Wow, that's not true in the slightest. Look how quickly they adopted the Sony Walkman, the Toyota Camry, the Nintendo Wii, etc.

The 360 isn't even the most popular console in the US.

Obvioiusly, god, I was taking a swing at the 360. 

I'll have to make sure to use my sarcasm tags next time.

I thought PS3 had it for sure earlier this year even with the higher price. Then the worlds financial economy went to heck. Now a lot of people aren't concerned with quality or value, they just want cheap. And you can see it from the way that McDonalds sales have increased, Walmart sales have increased and Xbox sales have increased. Anything is possible in the future it's hard to say who will win. Either way both have a user base now and both can make money so thats good for everyone. EmperorSupreme

Americans are loyal to their brands; even if they are garbage.

Sales benefit fanboys.

In my personal case, sales allow me to say: 360 is more popular then PS3.

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This sums up the thread.

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theres no :lol: about it. Sales determine the success or fail of a product in the real world.......where things actually matter. You stick to SW, lems will use how the market reacts to see how to break the tie. Gears 2 pimp slapped R2 at retail.

-General_Ram-

And what does this change for gamers? Nothing. If you want to go down that road and try to play sales, let's start talking Wii and how games like Cooking Mama stomp over 90% of the sales of other successful IP's of this generation, or how the DS is the best selling console of the generation, or how the PS3 is outselling Xbox, etc. Sales of an individual game don't determine anything. Why you're trying to use it as ownage is way beyond me.

There is no Wii, only 360 vs PS3. Thats all lems and cows care about. SO when the top 360 game outsells the top PS3 game, thats cause for bragging.

Umm, no. I thought we were going by "real world" rules, not SW rules? Your whole logic is flawed.

MGS4 is PS3's top game, and because this is SW, not the "real world", we go by scores not sales, and 10 > 9.

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300k to Gears 1.4 million week one. These are NA numbers only. Basically:

-General_Ram-

It's official: lemmings are turning into sheep. Can't take the fact that Resistance scored as good as Gears so you have to play sales now :lol: ?

theres no :lol: about it. Sales determine the success or fail of a product in the real world.......where things actually matter. You stick to SW, lems will use how the market reacts to see how to break the tie. Gears 2 pimp slapped R2 at retail.

And what does this change for gamers? Nothing. If you want to go down that road and try to play sales, let's start talking Wii and how games like Cooking Mama stomp over 90% of the sales of other successful IP's of this generation, or how the DS is the best selling console of the generation, or how the PS3 is outselling Xbox, etc. Sales of an individual game don't determine anything. Why you're trying to use it as ownage is way beyond me.

300k to Gears 1.4 million week one. These are NA numbers only. Basically:

-General_Ram-

It's official: lemmings are turning into sheep. Can't take the fact that Resistance scored as good as Gears so you have to play sales now :lol: ?

Japanese gaming market dying confirmed?Arsuz

lmao, PC gamer, right? No one else has that much ignorance.