the only thing i don't like that i read , is that if you go for the lower end ps3 model it does not include everything the higher end model includes just like the 360. but the difference is that you can;t upgrade later on if you want , like you were able to do with the 360.if you bought a 360 without a hard drive and later you decided you wanted one it was available.now from what i read the higher end model is the better one to get but if you buy the lower end don't expect to upgrade at a later time. now i don't think that is fair