Smartwould have been ditching the gimmick controller, launching with something worth playing, naming it something better, and making a GOOD console.

It is great compared to the Wii -which is  not saying much- and is ok if you do not have another better console. I have a PS3 so the WiiU is irrelevant at the moment until a new Zelda and maybe Metroid comes out and a deeper price cut. Right now there is no reason to own it unless you are a Nintendo faithful for whatever reason.

Probably another Mario spin off or something casual like Wii Fit. Nintendo has never made a game as interesting as Heavy Rain or a great as TLoU in the modern age. The last really incredible game they made was Super Metroid.

The policies was only one problem. Kinect is still needed and a useless gimmick, no stand out exclusive games after they did nothing for the 360 for the past 5 years, inferior controller and overrated online services, and still too expensive for something that people will only use to play COD, Madden and other multiplat games. PS4 still has every advantage and a better value for the price of their online service with the free games from PSplus. Their vision was bad from the beginning and their history shows that they can not offer anything original or exclusive to their platform besides Halo. There is a reason why the pre orders for the PS4 are higher.

[QUOTE="BlueVigor"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"] Wii is the best console. It also had the best games. I know this to be true because it outsold the PS3 and 360...

Silverbond

It ousold it to grandmas who don't play it like my mother and her friends. That poor Wii is still sitting on my mom's TV stand having not been played in over 4 years.

Why would I be mad for? I actually still have plenty to play on my PS3 while the Wii is dead and the WiiU is on life support.

I am still laughing @ MarioKart fan not knowing that Sony has had tons of first party games on the PSX lol. When fanboys expose themselves.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

inFamous Second Son is filler to you?

soundcellx

Infamous isn't even filler. These games have averaged 2 million a piece. Not exactly what you would call a system seller, plus these games are pretty mediocre. 

Mediocre? But two million people disagree with you. Good way to clown yourself.

[QUOTE="BombingSystems"]

I missed most of it... did they even show the ps4 or specs/features?

specialzed

Nothing they showed was capable on the PS3. What are you even talking about?

[QUOTE="OldSnakePS3"]

The Last of Us

Beyond Two Souls 

The Last Guardian 

Ni No Kuni 

FYI sony has put out more new ips than nintendo and M$ combined this gen 

mariokart64fan

lets act like none of those you listed were made lets instead look at ps1 exclusives that went multiplat had those not went multiplat sony wouldnt need to make new ips lol 

cause without those new ips -which are now old ips --sony only had twisted metal wipe out and gran turismo from the ps1 era , 

from the ps2 era they carried rachet and clank gow and socom ,

--so they only had six ips not including 3rd party exclusives 

we are only talkin first party 

microsoft had less cause they only been in the industry for 2gens so far

nintendo still has way more ips that are considered system sellers  if we look at the sales of sonys new ips the sales arent that high

lets take your list compare to mine shallwe

1. 1080
2. super mario 2d
3. super mario 3d
4. mariokart
5. zelda
6. metroid 2d
7. metroid prime
8. donkey kong country
9. super smash bros
10. mariokart
11. marioparty
12. mario sports line up
13. wii line of games
14. fling smash
15. fzero
16. kirby
17. sin and punishment
18. excite series
19. dr mario
20. endless ocean
21. nintendogs
22. starfox
23. kid icaris
24. punchout
25. nintendoland
26. pikmin
27. game and watch
28. warioware
29. warioland
30. game and wario-wiiu 
31. links crossbow training
32. fortune street
33. fire eblem
34. xenoblade
35. pandoras tower
36. the last story
37. pilot wings
38. pokemon
39. plus all wiiware/eshop exclusives 

now  sony has more ? lets look

1. gran turismo
2. twisted metal
3. resistance
4. motor storm
5. playstation allstars
6. mod nation
7. little big planet
8. lbpkarting
9. killzone
10. socom
11. rachet
12. infamous
13. little deviants
14. god of war
15. last of us
16. wipeout
17. sports champions
18. eyepet 
19. eye of judgment part of eye toy series for ps3 rebranded sony has half the ips nintendo has --and when we talk system sellers its even less so hmm a little something to think about before saying they have more ips then nintendo and microsoft combined 

ms

1. halo
2. perfectdark
3. banjo
4. killer instinct(dormant)
5. gears of war
6. kenict series
7. forza 
8. pgr
9. alan wake
10. fable 
11. fusion frenzy

wow you are right about microsoft but nintendo not so much the ones in red for playstation are from the beginning just so you can see sony needed those

Also MS does not own Gears so take it down.

[QUOTE="BlueVigor"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

MS kicked ass this gen

Silverbond

Yup they kicked them selves in the ass for the last four years of mediocre performance with a lack of games and quality service for the 360. Mass Effect finally coming to the PS3 saved me from buying one. That was the best game of the system next to Bioshock. Gears is next, but I am not interested. PS3 still outsold the 360 so the majority disagrees with you.

It ousold it to grandmas who don't play it like my mother and her friends. That poor Wii is still sitting on my mom's TV stand having not been played in over 4 years.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

No more of the "powah of teh cell" nonsense.  The "Emotion engine" GPU is gone.  The Eyetoy is clearly the Kinect and the controller has evolved to look more like the 360 controller than ever.  All the talk of the social connected stuff also feels like they're following Microsoft's path.  I dont blame them, but why isnt anyone noticing this?  The architecture of the system is very much like an Xbox just with updated hardware of course.  

I also should mention PS Plus is going to be required for almost all of these new features. (Streaming demos, PS3 back compat, streaming gameplay to ustream, etc.)  Get ready to start paying for Plus if you want any of the new stuff.  I'm also sure you'll be paying for party chat too.

Even though some of their ideas are obviously inspired by the Xbox Sony is making great moves. Whether they'll pull a PS3 and not deliver on the features will remain to be seen.

delta3074

Um what tradtional hardware? It is similar to PC architecture which has been around long before their was an Xbox. Sony designed the PS4 in mind with what developers asked them to as evident by those who spoke at the conference. Either way Sony is a better gaming company than MS so that is all that matters.