[QUOTE="ClarentUK"]

Yes, sales are indicative of profit. And PC games sell like crap. Thank you very much.

skrat_01

So PC games sell like crap, even though they generate 30 per cent of gaming revenues.

As you said sales are indicative of profit

Yeah that's because I imagine a lot of the revenue comes from WoW. Most PC games don't make nearly as much money as console games, but World of Warcraft compensates for this. (And deservedly so, it's a great game)

[QUOTE="ClarentUK"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]]And according to your logic they sell like 'crap' which means in that context they are not profitable.

While the facts show PC games must be selling well to generate such profit.

Which means they arent selling like "crap".

So ultimatley, you are terribly wrong, and your argument is just a silly statement, designed to provoke somone to prove yourself wrong, which has been done.

tsk tsk

skrat_01

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT FOR THE 5TH TIME.

I SAID SALES NOT PROFIT

You are the most frustrating person I have ever argued with, congratulations.

What's even more frustrating is I can't find the total sales for CoD 4 on pc in 2007, so I guess that means you win, congratulations.

Sales

"are the activities involved in selling products or services in return for money or other compensation"

Yes PC games are selling well enough to generate so much money.

:|

Yes, sales are indicative of profit. And PC games sell like crap. Thank you very much.

[QUOTE="ClarentUK"]

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT FOR THE 5TH TIME.

I SAID SALES NOT PROFIT

You are the most frustrating person I have ever argued with, congratulations.

What's even more frustrating is I can't find the total sales for CoD 4 on pc in 2007, so I guess that means you win, congratulations.

qewrewq

Then what are you talking about? number of copies sold? devs don't count how many copies they sold, they count the profits, that's the only thing that matters.

We're not devs.

I just realised, both figured of 3 million and 383,000 are from the US. Ouch you lose.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6184847.html

[QUOTE="ClarentUK"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="ClarentUK"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

For 'christs sake' get your facts right.

PC gaming "accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues " in the USA
-that is including the console and handheld sofware and hardware markets.

"For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent."

So yes PC games do sell well enough to support those figures

:|

skrat_01

We're talking about sales not profit. 14%

And revenue is a very clear indicator of a systems performance.

Of course lets 'ignore' the profit because it ultimatley means nothing right?

THIS ARGUMENT STARTED BECAUSE I SAID PC GAMES SELL LIKE CRAP

While the facts show PC games must be selling well to generate such profit.

Which means they arent selling like "crap".

So ultimatley, you are terribly wrong, and your argument is just a silly statement, designed to provoke somone to prove yourself wrong, which has been done.

tsk tsk

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PROFIT FOR THE 5TH TIME.

I SAID SALES NOT PROFIT

You are the most frustrating person I have ever argued with, congratulations.

What's even more frustrating is I can't find the total sales for CoD 4 on pc in 2007, so I guess that means you win, congratulations.

[QUOTE="ClarentUK"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

For 'christs sake' get your facts right.

PC gaming "accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues " in the USA
-that is including the console and handheld sofware and hardware markets.

"For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent."

So yes PC games do sell well enough to support those figures

:|

Danm_999

We're talking about sales not profit. 14%

Raising this does not help your argument. PC games are significantly cheaper than console games.

You got it the wrong way round, I'm talking about sales, and the cheaper they are the better they should sell and the less profit.