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#1 Corails
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The actual Patent office document can be viewed here:
Sony Motion Sensitivity Patent Document View

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=JP11099284&
F=0&QPN=JP1109928 4


Me thinks that alotta' people need to **bleep** now about Sony copying Nintendo. Not only did they patent the Wand concept back in 2004, but they've also produced this technology back in '99.

Credit goes to the memebers of the PSINext community for this valuable find.
In case the link does not work for some, here's the thread:
PSINext Thread

And a pic of the document, just in case again

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Ok here the true read it(thanks to smiley pyramid) now keep denial all proof is here

Summary:
1-power supply unit is "of course" internal to ps3, quietness is the same as ps2
2-you can create your own homebrew applications on the ps3 itself, via Linux and gcc, no license fees (welcome emu )
3- hdd can be replaced with any PC 2.5 sata hdd (2)
4-games can be saved to hdd
5-ps logo button used to raise system menu, turn on/off the ps3
6-ps3 has a standard web browser
7- 720p/1080p are recommended, devs can do what they want although SD is not preferable
8- both SKUs have the same functionality : 1080p, replacable hdd + Linux, there could be more versions in the future (bigger hdd etc)
9-ps3 controller fully supports 6 DOF (x,y,z and yaw,pitch,roll) : linear motion is recognized as well as rotational motion (3)
10-"facial recognition system, taking a picture of a female player and then running it against a database of stored faces until it reached the right one, at which point it auto-loaded the personal settings for that user -- their system background, their stored files, etc." (4)

1 http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30746

2 http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64667

3 http://reviews.cnet.com/4660-12331_7-6519205.html

4 http://ps3.ign.com/articles/708/708451p1.html

"Both versions will support 1080p."

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=55090

Ps3 have wireless controller on both sku check page 3:

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf

The ps3 at 499$ will play 1080 true component:


This was translated from the following source:

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415853,00.html




Quote:
Drive assemblies for highly soluble DVD rendition are to make the new play consoles attractive - Hollywood however might not make that happy. Because the copy protection mechanisms rammed at much expenditure from the soil are put by the manufacturers first on ice. Actually everything should be absolutely safe. A hardware copy protection named HDCP (see box) should prevent that highly soluble picture signals are measured by the new super DVDs at the exit and made so pirateriefaehig - and a second mechanism (AACS) to ensure that the disks cannot be copied also directly. DVD successor: Blu ray and hp DVD for the time being without copy protection HDCP large picture fig. AFP DVD successor: Blu ray and hp DVD for the time being without copy protection HDCP Hollywood invested much work, so that high-quality contents flow not shortly into cheap version out of the presses of Filmpiraten - possibly in vain, as turned out now on the play fair E3. At least the HDCP protection will not seize probably.

For HDCP playing devices need special exits, which are equipped with particularly inserted coding mechanisms. Between equipment and HDTV television the graphic data are then protected transmitted - measuring the digital picture stream by robbery copiers is to be prevented in such a way. The problem for the play industry: Microsofts Xbox-360 gets a Hp DVD drive assembly to Christmas as periphery extension - however the console has the so-called HDMI exit, which supports HDCP, not at all. The same will apply to the more favorable version of Sonys Playstation 3 - no HDMI and thus, would go it to Hollywood, also no highly soluble rendition. Behind the window blinds however one agreed: Until at least 2010, if 2012, now nevertheless signals - similar - are not even to be spent however in full dissolution can - also without HDMI and HDCP.

Originally it was intended that hp pictures may leave playing devices only digitally and by HDCP coded
. The likewise existing analogue outputs Blu ray blu-ray-oder of the Hp DVD Player should be allowed to give videos at the most in reduced dissolution outward. HDTV: HIGHLY SOLUBLE ABBREVIATION CONFUSION HDTV AACS HDCP HDMI DVI Both Sony and Microsoft confirmed with the E3 in Los Angeles opposite MIRROR ON-LINE ONE that the absence of the appropriate interfaces will not prevent that Blu ray DVDs and hp DVDs are represented also with full dissolution (if an appropriate television is present).

Hollywood might not make that happy. Particularly with Sony the situation is pikant, is the enterprise nevertheless both Filmstudio and console manufacturer. Sonys of highest play developers answered in the negative on demand however that it would have given Sony shouting in the house around the protection of the expensive films: The data sets are anyway so large with the new disks that Piraterie is not worthwhile itself. The only medium, which can master these quantities, is finally an appropriate Blu ray disk. At the latest if the film industry begins however nevertheless to switch the expensively developed protective mechanisms on on the DVDs will it for the owners of the console drive assemblies without appropriate exit possibly not possibly to play films

Quote:

Quote:
"In an important aside, Don Eklund, SPHE's senior vice president for advanced technologies, said that Sony's initial Blu-ray discs — and all of its Blu-ray titles for the forseeable future — will be free of the "Image Constraint Token" that's built into the Blu-ray and HD DVD standards. This controversial digital flag instructs the player to down-res the video signal from its analog component-video outputs to a standard-definition image to prevent high-resolution recordings — but at the same time prevents viewing of HDTV images on any TV or device not equipped with a copyright-protected HDMI digital input. That would eliminate any gain in image quality for HDTV early-adopters who bought displays prior to two or three years ago, when DVI and HDMI digital inputs were introduced.

Eklund noted that Sony's key piracy concern isn't with analog HDTV signals but with the digital HDTV signal coming off the disc, which both Blu-ray and HD DVD are protecting with the robust Advanced Access Content System (AACS) endorsed by the Hollywood studios. If analog copying does become a problem down the road, the policy could change, he said — but for now, "we have no plan to implement the Image Constraint Token. All of Sony's titles will come out of the analog output at full definition." He added that other studios still have the discretion to activate the token for all or individual titles"
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=1324


So with the 500 version you will be able to play high def movies in 720p/1080i/1080p through component,atleast till 2010-2012.

Edited added Proof of hdd removable on both sku

The HDD looks to be removable via a clip on the bottom of both of the consoles:
http://www.scee.presscentre.com/imagelibrary/detail.asp?MediaDetailsID=28989
There is no silver trim on the right hand lip, so you can tell this is a core system

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#3 Corails
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Ok here the true read it(thanks to smiley pyramid) now keep denial all proof is here

Summary:
1-power supply unit is "of course" internal to ps3, quietness is the same as ps2
2-you can create your own homebrew applications on the ps3 itself, via Linux and gcc, no license fees (welcome emu )
3- hdd can be replaced with any PC 2.5 sata hdd (2)
4-games can be saved to hdd
5-ps logo button used to raise system menu, turn on/off the ps3
6-ps3 has a standard web browser
7- 720p/1080p are recommended, devs can do what they want although SD is not preferable
8- both SKUs have the same functionality : 1080p, replacable hdd + Linux, there could be more versions in the future (bigger hdd etc)
9-ps3 controller fully supports 6 DOF (x,y,z and yaw,pitch,roll) : linear motion is recognized as well as rotational motion (3)
10-"facial recognition system, taking a picture of a female player and then running it against a database of stored faces until it reached the right one, at which point it auto-loaded the personal settings for that user -- their system background, their stored files, etc." (4)

1 http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30746

2 http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64667

3 http://reviews.cnet.com/4660-12331_7-6519205.html

4 http://ps3.ign.com/articles/708/708451p1.html

"Both versions will support 1080p."

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=55090

Ps3 have wireless controller on both sku check page 3:

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf

The ps3 at 499$ will play 1080 true component:


This was translated from the following source:

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,415853,00.html




Quote:
Drive assemblies for highly soluble DVD rendition are to make the new play consoles attractive - Hollywood however might not make that happy. Because the copy protection mechanisms rammed at much expenditure from the soil are put by the manufacturers first on ice. Actually everything should be absolutely safe. A hardware copy protection named HDCP (see box) should prevent that highly soluble picture signals are measured by the new super DVDs at the exit and made so pirateriefaehig - and a second mechanism (AACS) to ensure that the disks cannot be copied also directly. DVD successor: Blu ray and hp DVD for the time being without copy protection HDCP large picture fig. AFP DVD successor: Blu ray and hp DVD for the time being without copy protection HDCP Hollywood invested much work, so that high-quality contents flow not shortly into cheap version out of the presses of Filmpiraten - possibly in vain, as turned out now on the play fair E3. At least the HDCP protection will not seize probably.

For HDCP playing devices need special exits, which are equipped with particularly inserted coding mechanisms. Between equipment and HDTV television the graphic data are then protected transmitted - measuring the digital picture stream by robbery copiers is to be prevented in such a way. The problem for the play industry: Microsofts Xbox-360 gets a Hp DVD drive assembly to Christmas as periphery extension - however the console has the so-called HDMI exit, which supports HDCP, not at all. The same will apply to the more favorable version of Sonys Playstation 3 - no HDMI and thus, would go it to Hollywood, also no highly soluble rendition. Behind the window blinds however one agreed: Until at least 2010, if 2012, now nevertheless signals - similar - are not even to be spent however in full dissolution can - also without HDMI and HDCP.

Originally it was intended that hp pictures may leave playing devices only digitally and by HDCP coded
. The likewise existing analogue outputs Blu ray blu-ray-oder of the Hp DVD Player should be allowed to give videos at the most in reduced dissolution outward. HDTV: HIGHLY SOLUBLE ABBREVIATION CONFUSION HDTV AACS HDCP HDMI DVI Both Sony and Microsoft confirmed with the E3 in Los Angeles opposite MIRROR ON-LINE ONE that the absence of the appropriate interfaces will not prevent that Blu ray DVDs and hp DVDs are represented also with full dissolution (if an appropriate television is present).

Hollywood might not make that happy. Particularly with Sony the situation is pikant, is the enterprise nevertheless both Filmstudio and console manufacturer. Sonys of highest play developers answered in the negative on demand however that it would have given Sony shouting in the house around the protection of the expensive films: The data sets are anyway so large with the new disks that Piraterie is not worthwhile itself. The only medium, which can master these quantities, is finally an appropriate Blu ray disk. At the latest if the film industry begins however nevertheless to switch the expensively developed protective mechanisms on on the DVDs will it for the owners of the console drive assemblies without appropriate exit possibly not possibly to play films

Quote:

Quote:
"In an important aside, Don Eklund, SPHE's senior vice president for advanced technologies, said that Sony's initial Blu-ray discs — and all of its Blu-ray titles for the forseeable future — will be free of the "Image Constraint Token" that's built into the Blu-ray and HD DVD standards. This controversial digital flag instructs the player to down-res the video signal from its analog component-video outputs to a standard-definition image to prevent high-resolution recordings — but at the same time prevents viewing of HDTV images on any TV or device not equipped with a copyright-protected HDMI digital input. That would eliminate any gain in image quality for HDTV early-adopters who bought displays prior to two or three years ago, when DVI and HDMI digital inputs were introduced.

Eklund noted that Sony's key piracy concern isn't with analog HDTV signals but with the digital HDTV signal coming off the disc, which both Blu-ray and HD DVD are protecting with the robust Advanced Access Content System (AACS) endorsed by the Hollywood studios. If analog copying does become a problem down the road, the policy could change, he said — but for now, "we have no plan to implement the Image Constraint Token. All of Sony's titles will come out of the analog output at full definition." He added that other studios still have the discretion to activate the token for all or individual titles"
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=1324


So with the 500 version you will be able to play high def movies in 720p/1080i/1080p through component,atleast till 2010-2012.

Edit added proof of hdd removable on both sku:

The HDD looks to be removable via a clip on the bottom of both of the consoles:
http://www.scee.presscentre.com/imagelibrary/detail.asp?MediaDetailsID=28989
There is no silver trim on the right hand lip, so you can tell this is a core system

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#4 Corails
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Why the ps3 will have a G71 aka 7900  here why:

 

G71 is the Playstation 3 RSX chip

Both 90 nanometre G70 derivatives

By Fuad Abazovic: vendredi 04 novembre 2005, 14:23NVIDIA CALLS its 90 nanometre graphic core of Playstation 3, RSX. This graphic chip is set to work at 550MHz and Nvidia can guarantee that a million chips will work at this speed as it's not that challenging at this process level. Nvidia can obviously make G70 work fine at 550MHz but it can not ship millions of those chips, more likely tens of thousands.

When it comes to Playstation RSX we have every reason to believe that this chip is already taped out, as Nvidia plans to have G71 in Q1 2006 already. We expect to see some of these cards even before CeBIT in March 2006.

We managed to confirm that we can actually talk about RSX, as it's G71 and vice versa. Sony just wants millions of chips and it can get them at 90 nanometre. When it comes to graphic performance, the RSX can process 24 pixels with its 24 pipelines while an Xbox 360 powered with ATI's Xenos, R500 chip can do no more no less than double, 48 pixels per clock.

When it comes to G71 as a graphic chip, Nvidia will get that chip to insane speeds and we expect at least 650 to 700MHz for the cherry picked top of the range.

Best of all, Sony and Nvidia can position the Geforce 7800 GTX with 512MB to be the performance estimates of RSX chips but we doubt that RSX will have memory working at an insane 1700MHz plus.

Remember RSX is here to stay for at least five more years and it has to go down to 65 nanometre and 45 in next few years to make it cheaper to produce

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27463