MS cannot alienate those with hdd-less 360 thats why they're no mandatory install in any game and thats why LA Noir is on 3 disks. I thought people knew thisme2002

[QUOTE="DUKEISGOLD"][QUOTE="me2002"]

you don't get it, MS cannot alienate those with hdd-less 360 thats why no game has madatory hdd install thats why LA Noir is on 3 discs

btw did you make an account just to post in my thread?

turtlethetaffer

I think the DUKE guy did make an account to post, and I think I know who it is.

[QUOTE="DUKEISGOLD"][QUOTE="me2002"]

you can't because some 360s don't have hdd

me2002

you don't get it, MS cannot alienate those with hdd-less 360 thats why no game has madatory hdd install thats why LA Noir is on 3 discs

btw did you make an account just to post in my thread?

[QUOTE="DUKEISGOLD"][QUOTE="me2002"]if youthink about it this way: say you have a game with 20gigs of cutscene they're not going to have 10 discs (2 gig of cutscene and 6 for the world) thats just stupid, so they would have to limit the discs to say 4, then every disk would have 5 gigs of cutscene leaving only 3 gigs for the world, thats only 3, not 8Snugenz

Thats very wrong in most cases besides Forza 3.

Even if you install all 3 discs you'll still need to swap discs due to copy protection.

[QUOTE="DUKEISGOLD"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Regardless of whether or not you people think that disc swapping is a hassle, it is a good indication that DVD-9 is dated and needs to be upgraded. People were saying that Sony jumped the gun with Blu Ray this generation, well apparently not. Every PS3 game is on 1 disc, many 360 games are on multiple discs.

Remember the PS1? It was a CD format. The PS2 upgraded to a DVD format to combat the need for multiple discs on games such as 4 discs for Final Fantasy IX. Well, it worked. How many multiple disc games do you recall releasing on the PS2? None that I can remember. Now here's where the responsible aspect comes into play, it's called learning from your mistakes. Rather than releasing the PS3 with the same storage medium as the PS2, knowing full well they would encounter the same problem they had with the PS1, they decided to be proactive and provide a way around it by including a blu ray drive. Well, it worked.

Getting up to change discs isn't that big of a deal at the end of the day, but the problems with Microsoft's decision to use a DVD format stems much further than that. Developers from all over the industry have expressed complaints about the DVD format used by M$, claiming that it is simply not sufficient for today's next generation games. Rockstar said flat out that the 360 held GTA4 back from its full potential, and they had to cut corners on the game to compensate for the 360. The same thing happened with Final Fantasy XIII, and who knows how many other multi-platform games. You may ask yourself, well why don't those developers just make the 360 version a multiple disc release? Well apparently, Microsoft charges developers an absurd amount of additional money for additional discs for their games.

Here's a video of John Carmack explaining how the Xbox 360 and DVD9 has directly affected the development for RAGE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qppLjwqkiU

me2002

you can't because some 360s don't have hdd

if youthink about it this way: say you have a game with 20gigs of cutscene they're not going to have 10 discs (2 gig of cutscene and 6 for the world) thats just stupid, so they would have to limit the discs to say 4, then every disk would have 5 gigs of cutscene leaving only 3 gigs for the world, thats only 3, not 8me2002