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#1 Dvaquero1916
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[QUOTE="hckeystar3"]all games don't support 1080P only some do like uncharted.Udsen

Uncharted runs in max 1080i

Uncharted runs in 1080i, LCD have no concept of iterlace just progressive, to get around this they use an internal line doubler, wave and bob and other deinterlacing methods. There is no scaling when going 1080i to 1080p, the progressive image is there just interlaced before being transmitted to the TV. In the deinterlacing, that the TV does to get a1080p image, causes interlace artifacts. The XBOX360 has a better method by upscaling a 720p to 1080p, no artifacts.

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#2 Dvaquero1916
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This thread is bullocks.

Obviously, the TV already scales thee resolution internally, or there would be black bars surrounding the image. That is why old HDTVs cannot display 720P, only 1080 as it does not scale images to occupy the whole screen. ALL TVs made in recent years have an internal scaler.

The only difference is that the xbox 360 scales it for you so the TV doesn't need to do it again, which is why the output is detected as 1080p. The PS3 outputs the 720p image but the TV scales it for you anyway to fill the image on the screen. Whatever visual difference you observe is psychological, and comes from a misunderstanding ofhow the technology works.

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A hard streach, which the panel does, does not equal to the internal upscaling that the Xbox360 creates.

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I Know about your problem way too much. I am a PC gamer at heart but lately the consoles have swayed me becaue of the theater aspect, siting on my couch is is better than hunched over a KB. Don't get me wrong I got crysis running on my new 42 1080P, its at 720 resolution, need a 4k dollar PC to run 1080P at very high.

But that was a tangent, Regular PC monitors have a tough time displaying 1080P, reasoning is that most are not 16:9 but 16:10. Very rarely you'll find a PC monitor with a 16:9 aspect ratio under 30'. Look up PC resolution in wikipidia, a normal resolution for a Monitor that size is 1920x1200, and up from there to the dual link DVI 2400x1600 resolutions for monitors like dell's 30' monster or a apple cinema displays. Since 1080 is weird for a pc usually you'll get a slightly taller image or if you monitor has 1:1 pixel option(look up 1:1 Pixel in google) you have black bars top and bottom. For 720, a noticeably a step down image quality from the native resolution of a 24'PC monitor, you have much of the same problems. You might get taller images, bars on the top and bottom, or edges cut off. No way to fix this sorry. For the prices out now for full HD tv set, essentially monitors with 1920x1080 resolutions, I'ld think about grabbing me one.

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I realize that rendering in 1080P is a hard task on any system, computer or consoles. A current project of mine is to run Crysis in Very High Settings @ 1080P but they have not made parts to do that yet, wait until Nvidia comes out with their 8800 successor. But the being able to display on a monitors/TV native in its native resolution benefits image quality. The XBOX360 has a, beautiful, compositing chip to upscale/downscale the images it renders. The PS3 has no chip, but my misconception is that it could at least upscale images to 1080P. Given the choice in getting DMC4 or Burnout is made easy, I'll go XBOX. Sorry PS3.

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I just got a 1080P set,a Philips 42PFL7422D/37 non ablilight version. BlueRay plays in 1080P, so does Drakes Fortune and I expected that the PS3 would do 1080P on all games.
Reason I am interested is because when I downloaded the DMC4 demo over the PS network and ran the game, I noticed it was not running on 1080P. Went through some of my other games on demos and found that Burnout Paradise also runs in 720p. The demos, DMC4 and Burnout Paradise, on Xbox360 run in 1080p(upscaled). 1080P looks better in either Native or Upscaled by the XBOX no matter what anyone tells you.
I have owned the PS3 for almost a year and just started to play games on it. Used PS3 to play some BlueRay Movies mostly until good games started to come out. Is this a common problem with the PS3? I never had any resolution issues on the XBOX360.
Is this just me or do I have a TV problem?
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long time member but recently my rank has not grown. Also my rank no longer shows up next to my User name on the main page. what is up with this? and where sould i complain? other than here