[QUOTE="Earthstrike"]To think that the Nintendo Wii was a bad fiscal decision, is really without respect to the fiscal realities of the games divisions' of MS, Sony, and Nintendo.Dualshockin

On wii's online capabilites. You mean with respect to games right? I agree that wii is not doing much online with respect to games.

However, all you're really saying is "look how powerful the PS3 is and how many non-gaming related things it does". This doesn't really qualify as proof that sales of the PS3 are going to surpass the wiis.

Also price cuts every half year?
Are you kidding me? They haven't even introduced a real price drop yet. Just a clearance of the 60gb models at a price 100$ cheaper. You do know sony's gaming division lost 2 billion dollars for fiscal 2007 right? and that's after the massive profits of the PSP and PS2. anyways i'm off to bed now.

screwed up with the PS3 early on, with an blockhead price and one of the worst first year lineups in gaming history. I can see what Sony is thinking though. They will take their hits now, but by end of 2009, when they can afford to drop the PS3 to around $200 or $300, then they will see a good return and sales start to pick up enormously, mainly because of the Blu-ray player, which IMO will win the next gen DVD wars and the PS3 should have a nice gaming lineup by then. Of course by late 2010, the next gen will start, either with a new Nintendo console, a new MS console or both. Sony may be seeing such strong sales by that point, they may wait it out a year. The PS3 IMO will sale upwards of around 60 to 80 million units in its lifetime, but not have the same success as the PS or PS2, mainly because of the risks Sony took early in its life, which obviously have not paid off.

eastside49er

60 to 80 million? Are you joking me? just what kind of numbers do you think PS3 will push in 2010?

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Earthstrike"]At this current point in its life cycle? No that is not the case. Half of all x-box sales werenot during year one.Also Nintendo is holding back wii's. Usually when companies have forseeably large amounts of demand for a product that they know will continue to sell through they balance the shipping of the units over time so there are more available for christmas since its better PR.Dualshockin

Just curious, how did you think the DS would fare against the PSP and what did you think the initial DS sales predicted for the total sales of the system.

Hold on a second, do you honestly believe that given current sales trend of the DS and PSP that the PSP will somehow manage to come back by one magic game? You do know the DS is approximately selling 135,000 units a week in japan right? and approximately 100,ooo units a week in NA with similar numbers in europe? I mean its one thing to think one is better than the other which is fine but to think that current market share division can be reversed? Dam. And waiting for one magic game? You sound like gamecube fanboys saying "wait til zelda comes out" and then when sales did nothing they said "wait til mario comes out".

And wii vs xbox1 was not the topic. the topic was the fact that Nintendo completely changed their market share division with respect to the current generation, while microsoft has improved moderatley.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Earthstrike"]At this current point in its life cycle? No that is not the case. Half of all x-box sales werenot during year one.Also Nintendo is holding back wii's. Usually when companies have forseeably large amounts of demand for a product that they know will continue to sell through they balance the shipping of the units over time so there are more available for christmas since its better PR.ChiChiMonKilla

Just curious, how did you think the DS would fare against the PSP and what did you think the initial DS sales predicted for the total sales of the system.

You didn't really answer my question (although it was intended for dualshocking).

[QUOTE="Earthstrike"]At this current point in its life cycle? No that is not the case. Half of all x-box sales werenot during year one.Also Nintendo is holding back wii's. Usually when companies have forseeably large amounts of demand for a product that they know will continue to sell through they balance the shipping of the units over time so there are more available for christmas since its better PR.Dualshockin

Just curious, how did you think the DS would fare against the PSP and what did you think the initial DS sales predicted for the total sales of the system.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]If the wii has better sound than the xbox (5.1dd vs pro logic),has better online than the old xbox ect :lol:Dualshockin

This is all from 2001 vs the wii from 2006 :lol:

To think that the Nintendo Wii was a bad fiscal decision, is really without respect to the fiscal realities of the games divisions' of MS, Sony, and Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]If the wii has better sound than the xbox (5.1dd vs pro logic),has better online than the old xbox ect :lol:Dualshockin

demand.

At this current point in its life cycle? No that is not the case. Half of all x-box sales werenot during year one.

Also Nintendo is holding back wii's. Usually when companies have forseeably large amounts of demand for a product that they know will continue to sell through they balance the shipping of the units over time so there are more available for christmas since its better PR.

[QUOTE="Earthstrike"]>I'm claiming that it is not fact that consoles have better libraries than others (Unless the consoles libraries are empty sets or subsets of eachother) since the enjoyment of a game is a subjective experience, and my proof is that opinions vary from person to person. The evidence I would cite to support this would be the body of reviews on gamerankings which are never in absolute agreement with eachother, but only general.Also, when it comes to something like graphics, its important that you actually define something measurable. To go back to your car example, some cars may perform better or worse than other cars depending on the weather, inclination, etc. This is just a general statement with respect to comparison of computer hardware systems in general.Dualshockin

It is not my opinion that the wii's current and future library outdoes the PS3's current and future library. I, nor anyone else at the present moment, can really make a sound assertion about how the full final libraries of these systems would compare since there are three too four years worth of undeveloped games yet to be known about. Maybe the games on PS3 will be the best since its the most powerful. Maybe the best games will be developed on the Wii since the platform is more fiscally viable given sales trends. Ony time will tell. Also, Graphics are measurable. I said they were in my initial post. I simply said that statements of what was being compared had to be made. Instead of looking at a picture of doa and galaxy, talk about the polygon counts, shaders, and other quantifiable aspects of graphics in the doa and galaxy picture.

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]If the wii has better sound than the xbox (5.1dd vs pro logic),has better online than the old xbox ect :lol:Dualshockin

demand.