there are new ideas. and there are new IPs:

-nintendogs

-cooking mama

-bit generations

-brain training

-wii play/sports/music

there are also new concepts in hardware:

-link's crossbow training

-wii fit

-DS touch screen

-wii baton

and the new hardware doesn't just sit beside the new software, it changes how games are played. so along with the new IPs mentioned above, you have new ways of experiencing the old franchises.

personally i don't think 'kid icarus' or 'punch out' count as a new ideas. but if they make them in 3D they'll be new games, and much different games to the 8-bit nes versions, i imagine. then you have the new input device, the wii baton, which will further change the way those games are played. so there is innovation, but perhaps not the kind of innovation a proportion of players desire.

would punch out wii be a 'new' IP if it wasn't called punch out? no, not really. would it be a new IP if it was just a boxing game without the punch out characters? technically, but then they've already done that with the wii sports boxing. they would have to not to a boxing game to create a genuinely new IP. but they have (see list). i just don't think it's what a lot of people expected or wanted.

miyamoto seems to come up with most of the ideas (maybe change the topic to "do you guys think miyamoto has run out of ideas?"), and as the guy above me already stated, he has considered in a recent interview that he may be running out of inspiration. ideas and inspiration are special things that don't come along always, and even if they do the ideas might not work for whatever reasons.

but it's worth understand that nintendo isn't the be all and end all of video games. the fact that developer skip is coming up with more interesting ideas (more interesting to the kind of people that are complaining here) than nintendo shows that innovation is in lots of different places, so we don't have to just rely on nintendo. even if you do, you'll always get nintendo-branded innovation.

wii music interview here:

http://uk.wii.com/wii/en_GB/software/wii_music_interview_volume_1_1868.html

just_nonplussed

Your examples are reasons why I no longer support Nintendo. I realize everyone enjoys different types of games, but they use to be about action and adventure games while also having a wide variety of other games as well. Now all we are getting is a bunch of this bull crap showing off the wiimote and motion controls and it is enough to drive older nintendo fans insane.

As I said, only a handful of games are actually worth considering after all of these years for most people, the rest are just overpriced fillers and other older games redone for the Wii. That is about it.

[QUOTE="jomaster007"]no matter who they ban or limit or what moves, become considered "cheating" no game with this unique of characters will ever be perfectly balanced, so unless you wnat the next game to be all mario but with different skins for each of the characters i would quit complainingZumaJones07

Are you kidding me? There were about 4-5 characters in Melee that were FAR above every other character. Brawl, especially in tournaments, seems to be the most balanced so far. As a few others have mentioned, this game will never be perfectly balanced, it simply isn't possible.

Its a shame Wii doesn't have an update system so Nintendo could patch some of their games though, but maybe someday in the future I suppose.

I wouldn't say they have run out of ideas. I will say that I use to be a hardcore nintendo fan untill recently. I want high quality games and I want a variety of games with new ideas. They haven't done nearly enough compared to previous systems in the same amount of time and it just feels to me like they will never go back to how they use to be.

There are only a handful of games that I personally find entertaining for the Wii. All I am seeing as of late is remakes of classic games or some random thoughts balled up into some twisted excuse for entertainment. Just my thoughts and why I honestly don't support Nintendo anymore.