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#1 IDoItLikeAboss
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] the fact that they don't produce better visuals, they are just more pleasing to you shows you don't know the difference between subjective and objective,savagetwinkie

So MLAA, better FPS, no screen tearing, higher resolution, better animations, longer draw distance is not better visuals? Just more "pleasing" :?

what about everything else with the lighting, physics, particle effects, actors on screen, lighting, and all those other effects. both uncharted and killzone come up horrendously short if you took everything into account. I know in game explosions/lighting pretty much crysis 2 dominates, I believe it supports more actors on screen, not sure, There is more detail in the enviroment, the enviroments are bigger, the models are more detailed. How can you just ignore everything that makes crysis good and only go for a few things that on paper make uncharted look better.

are you really saying 27fps vs 29 fps is a big difference that matters? 1112x720 vs 1280x720 is a big difference? Both have great animations and I don't know how your measuing draw distance effectively... I will agree with jaggies in crysis 2 is a little crappy but generally I believe crysis offers the better graphical/technical package.

Your picking and choosing things and yoru not taking everything into account, this is why your narrowsited view is completely invalidated. Comparing crysis 2 is much much more proof that 360 is just as powerful as ps3. And generally crysis 2 performed better on 360 more consistently with some larger drops, while both dropped to 15fps in hariy moments. Also its known that the 360 has a crisper image, though the AF was better on the ps3.

Bro i think your having a hard time understanding that while Crysis 2 on 360 is said to be the 360's best , its still being out done on the ps3 by ps3 exclusives But no game with as many issues as crysis 2 should ever be in the running for graphics king in the first place! Lmao Yeah, it looks great in screen shots but it looks ass in motion. I dont play screen shots The pc version of crysis 2 can be stunning however
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#2 IDoItLikeAboss
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[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] going back to the OP about 360 being able to play ps3 games better... well there isn't any evidence to suggest it couldn't.savagetwinkie
lmao what kind of insane logic is this?Well, there isnt any evidence to suggest that it can either. Instead of taking your words for it, we can actually take a look at the exclusives, and the ps3 exclusives speak louder then any fanboy ever could Its no coincidence that the best looking games this gen have been ps3 exclusives. Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Killzone 3, Infamous 2. And the impressive games that have been on the the 360 ARE ALSO ON THE ps3. Just from reading this thread its funny but in a sad kind of way how hard 360 fanboys cling on to multi plat crysis

why didn't you quot the other half of that paragraph that pointed out what suggests it can? Multiplats are the only factual evidence of how the systems compare, exclusives are not. Its like me saying the ps3 is obviously not as powerful as the 360 because there isn't one game that looks as good as halo reach and also supports 20 vehicles and 40 ai. Yah the ps3 doesnt' have anything like it but that isn't proof it wouldn't be able to.

except that multi plat developers have to port from one system and can not fully take advantage of both hardwares and since the 360 is the easiest to work with, lazy devolopers will take the easy route to get good results quick And even then all multi plats are nearly identical,despit the 360 always being the lead, but when there is a multi plat with the ps3 as the lead that is when you will actually see a difference. However exclusives focus on maximizing its respective consoles and its no question there that ps3 exclusives are quite a bit better(and IMO are the the superior and more enjoyable games but thats a discussion for another day) P.s Halo reach looks like ass i dont think anyone would ever mistake that game for graphics king But then again this thread and posters like karateechop prove that 360 fanboys will sink to all new lows to justify their piece of plastic
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#4 IDoItLikeAboss
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] Sub HD, Sub 30 Fps, 2 screen tear is facts though, i don't see how this makes it not count as graphics king, its not like uncharted 2/3, killzone 2/3, GoW3, are all perfect either, they just made sacrifices to get the correct ratio for the resolution, and they aren't a solid 30fps except for GoW going back to the OP about 360 being able to play ps3 games better... well t here isn't any evidence it couldn't. But given both systems trying to run the same thing, and 99/100 times its better on the 360 is actual evidence that suggest if you took UC2/3 and built it for the ground up for 360, there is a possibility it could perform better.savagetwinkie

U have any other facts then? And yes Uncharted 2 is solid 30 fps. Kz is like 29.9

not really 99/100 at all. Portal 2, L.A.Noire, Brink, DNF is just a few examples recently. And we all know the answer lazy developers and ports. Lol why does it matter how they run ugly games when PS3 has much more prettier games which 360 so far isn't even close to.

first lazy dev's is speculation, not a fact. And you got to remember when the ps3 first came out it had a bloated OS which was the leading cause for downgraded visuals, its not as bloated but it still takes up more room than the 360's so even though on paper they both have physical 512mb of memory, actual usable memory goes to 360. Its processor is even more flexible than the SPU's, the shared memory architecture makes it possible to keep all 3 cores chugging away on threads (6 in total). The ps3 has 2 main threads and 5 SPU's for games, the 5 SPU's do not share memory, so having a flexible job system causes memory cycles to be thrown out giving them new jobs, or if you dedicate the SPU to a job it will be underutilized unless like, say its doing physics, if some sort of physics isn't allways pushing it to 100% (impossible to do unless its predefined) it will be underutilized. 100% utilization on this type of processor, where game code can shift loads pretty regularly is a pipe dream. It has a theoretical max peak, but its theoretical for a reason because its just not possible to really reach and if you do its not sustainable. secondly while those games are locked at 30fps (like crysis2), uncharted 2 and killzone will drop in hairier situations, so its not perfect, neither is crysis 2, and its only real performance issue is on teh level with the tank, because its excessive amounts of explosions, is a good cause for a lower frame rate. Otherwise I haven't heard of any real performance issues beyond that that wouldn't be considered normal. Like similar situations that cause frame rate drops even in UC2/kz2.

Bro its pretty obvious, but unfortunate, that you have very little idea what your talking about. Please do yourself a favor and do some research
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#6 IDoItLikeAboss
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="clone01"]Whose this "vast majority of 360 fanboys?" Are you saying Kevin Van Ord is a 360 fanboy? He scored Crysis 2 highly. Yep, that's it, he must be a fanboy. Are you saying I'm a 360 fanboy because I think Crysis 2 looks good?Perhaps you should take a look at your posting history before throwing the fanboy moniker around so casually.And no, its not a night and day difference. See, opinions are fun.savagetwinkie
Most people saying Crysis 2 is console graphics king are 360 fanboys yes.Sub HD, Sub 30 Fps, 2 screen tear is facts though. Funny how when facts are brought up you don't want to "fret over development technique"

going back to the OP about 360 being able to play ps3 games better... well there isn't any evidence to suggest it couldn't.

lmao what kind of insane logic is this?Well, there isnt any evidence to suggest that it can either. Instead of taking your words for it, we can actually take a look at the exclusives, and the ps3 exclusives speak louder then any fanboy ever could Its no coincidence that the best looking games this gen have been ps3 exclusives. Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Killzone 3, Infamous 2. And the impressive games that have been on the the 360 ARE ALSO ON THE ps3. Just from reading this thread its funny but in a sad kind of way how hard 360 fanboys cling on to multi plat crysis
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#7 IDoItLikeAboss
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