[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Its like a badge of honor to be slammed by PETA lol. Just sorta wish Katy Perry wasnt talentless :(Aljosa23

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That's It I Quit School!

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] I know life isnt fair, that's why in my initial post I said that if we truly want equality and then i went on to explain my point of view. The law states that a man has to pay child support and if, God forbid, I ever have a child with a woman that I dont want, I will pay child support and do my part because that is what the law dictates. My point was that I do not believe the law is just in this regard and was just sharing my views on how it could be amended.HoolaHoopMan

Its a simple concept that keeps flying over your head, so let's break it down.

1) When a man has sex with a woman its implied consent to raise and help any child that may result from the sex.  This is why he is forced to pay child support by law.

2) Abortion is legal in this country as the bodily rights of the woman supersede that of the growing fetus/embryo.  This is why she can terminate the pregnancy if she chooses to, ITS HER BODY NOT THE GUYS.

Its fairly simple, the man has no say because its not his body, and he must pay child support because he consented to sex in the first place. If the man wants a say then he can come up with a way to take the fetus out of a woman and implant it in himself.  The fact that the fetus may have half his DNA is irrelevant. 

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Yes. It is his child. He created it. And frankly dead beat dads are scum.lostrib

it's your child regardless. Life isn't fair

[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Simple fact.....reason abortion is legal is because it deals with the woman's body. Hence she has ultimate say. Not the man who isn't going to carry the baby. If you take away the woman's choice then there is no reason for abortion to be legal in the first place. If you don't want a surprise announcement.....avoid sex. Or at least use a condom to lessen the odds. Note: they are not 100%.LJS9502_basic

My issue is that the woman gets a get out of jail free card. If she wants the baby, she can decide to keep it knowing she is gonna be getting money for it. If she feels she isnt ready for the child she can just abort it and go on with life like nothing happened. A man doesnt get that choice If he wants the child, screw him, the woman can still get an abortion. If he doesnt want the child and doesnt feel ready to take care of a child screw it, the woman can still go on and have the child and force him into the situation. Either way, the woman always comes out on top. Its like she bares less responsibility, as if she had no choice but to open her legs and have intercourse without a condom and let the man ejaculate in her.

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 I wonder if all these women-loving, feminist pro-choicers would be cool with late term abortions (not just for health reasons only). After all, it's the women's body, and the big bad government should not be interfering with it. 

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I'm not a feminist by any stretch of imagination, in fact if you look back to find a thread about feminist issues you can be 100% sure I'll be posting in it to bash women-lovers, and I'm fine with late term abortions.

This has nothing to do with being women-lovers and everything to do with the fact that I consider a toddler's life worthless.

I think having a law this way is the best way to meet both sides at the middle. A woman will still have the right to decide what to do with her body and get rid of the pregnancy but at the same time, after a certain amount of time has passed and the baby has developed to the point that it is able to survive (with a lot of luck and medical assistance) without a host, abortions should be disallowed. I think 6 months is ample time for any woman to decide whether or not she wants to have a child.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] Funny. Spanish and black women are the least attractive to me lol. Spanish being the least.. but you can give me a cute asian any time of the week lol.. My aprreciation for black women is growing though. It's weird, I kind of don't want to hook up with white girls anymore ( my own race ) .. I find branching out to different races exhillirating.PSP107