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#1 Invader_basic
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You should pretty much always use the Dot by Dot setting when it is available for whatever particular input you're using. It displays the picture without any stretching or zooming, so you are getting the image in its purest form.
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#2 Invader_basic
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For general home use, any of them should do the job just fine. Digital Video Essentials is rather dense and hard to understand and use. If you figure out how to use it, it's great. I haven't used the others, but I've heard that AVIA is easier to use, so that may be the one to go with. I'm not familiar with the Sound & Video disc.
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[QUOTE="Invader_basic"]One thing to try is if your TV has optical out, run the HDMI from the Xbox 360 to the TV, then the digital optical from the TV to the sound system optical input. If that doesn't work or your TV doesn't have optical out, then I guess you have to ask yourself how much that surround sound is worth to you, and if you're willing to spend the money for the official cable (or risk doctoring something up yourself).kryloc

I'm pretty sure most TVs cannot route DD5.1(or any SS for that matter) from the HDMI input to the Optical output. It will be down-converted to stereo.

You may be right on that point, I honestly don't know. But one thing to consider is, if a TV won't pass a surround signal through its optical output, why would the manufacturer bother to put the optical out on the TV to begin with?
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#4 Invader_basic
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As an employee of RadioShack, I can say with confidence that while you got the best deal on HDMI there, you still got ripped off. Just take it back and order one off of monoprice.com or amazon.com, the cables they offer for a fraction of the price will work every bit as well.
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One thing to try is if your TV has optical out, run the HDMI from the Xbox 360 to the TV, then the digital optical from the TV to the sound system optical input. If that doesn't work or your TV doesn't have optical out, then I guess you have to ask yourself how much that surround sound is worth to you, and if you're willing to spend the money for the official cable (or risk doctoring something up yourself).
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Correct, the link I did supply offers a calibration disc, it also includes a device that is draped over your tv and run into a PC, to the tune of nearly $1200 bux, not the typical $25 disc you'd get at your local Radio Shack or Wal-Mart. That is a high-end calibrating device used for an avid diy'er,not the everyday joe who buys a cheap tv of the shelf at Wally World. Datacolor offers other devices that can be had for under $300 that work well. And the claim I speak of is towards the $20 dollar disc's, Please read my post again it clearly states that the link provided is more on the lines of a professional unit.

As far as the "affordable alternative" send me your address and I'll send you a cheap ass disc I received from Sound & Vision when I renewed my sub one year, I tried it on a TV and the image got worst. I simply cant understanding spending over 2K on a beautiful TV and watching a lousy ass picture when in most cases a mere $200 bux will give you exactly what you've paid for.

To each is own they say....Enjoy your lousy picture from your $20 cali disc when you could easily get so much more out of your investment.

[QUOTE="Invader_basic"][QUOTE="ArcticCat500"] A simple calibration DVD isnt worth the disc it's formated on so dont waste your money, and there isnt an article anywhwere on the internet thats going to allow to set your $2000+ investment like a professional. The equipment they use in some cases cost more then the TV you just bought, dont become a victim to the hype of inexpensive calibration dvd's. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/2004/picture-perfect-tv-calibration-demystified.html Heres the closest thing to a real time dvd calibration system. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/tutorial/2600/step-by-step-how-to-use-spydertv-pro-to-calibrate-an-hdtv.html Done waste your money on junk, just have it done right.

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[QUOTE="Invader_basic"][QUOTE="ArcticCat500"]for what it's worth, go out and spend 2K+ on a TV, either LCD or Plasma most cant tell the subtle differences and you'll never truly enjoy the tv until you have it professionally calibrated, these tv's are set at thier factories to outshine the tv sitting next to it on the shelf, when we get it home we think it looks great all the while it's just one big spotlight burning a hole in our heads and causing pre-mature wear on our sets. If you out to spend 2K on a TV, whats another couple hundred to get exactly what you've paid for. Calibrate it, you wont beleive it till you see it.ArcticCat500

Or even better, save your money and buy a calibration DVD so you can do it yourself.

or EVEN better, save more money by visiting AVS forums and reading calibration threads for your TV model and jot down the settings.

If you're willing to spend a couple hundred dollars for someone to come in and make some tweaks to your TV when you can make almost all of the important changes yourself with the help of a calibration disc, well more power to you. The website you link to even offers a calibration disc of their own, in addition to several articles which explain the benefits of using such a disc - I'd hardly say they support your claim that a calibration disc isn't worth its plastic. What I wonder is, why do you so strongly support people paying a professional for calibration service? What do you stand to gain? And why are you so vehemently against the affordable alternative?

If you'll read my post, you'll see that I mentioned that it was other articles on the same website that explained the benefits of calibration discs, I wasn't even referring to the specific articles you linked to. And you're certainly entitled to whatever opinion you want to have, if it makes you happy to blow a couple hundred dollars on something that will make only a marginal improvement, then by all means go for it. Just be aware that your elitist attitude isn't doing yourself or anyone else any favors. Well, except the calibrationists themselves, that is. They stand to make a cool buck off of those who think like you do. "A fool and his money are soon parted..."
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Dont buy the 64U series 1080p Tv... problems for gaming.cloudstrife75
Hmm, not quite sure where you got your information, but it doesn't quite match up to my experience. I just got a Sharp AQUOS 37" 1080p LC-37D62U and it looks absolutely phenomenal with my Xbox 360 over component at 1080p. I've played Bioshock, Lost Odyssey, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and even tossed in the original Halo and Ninja Gaiden Black for Xbox and all look and play fantastic. Well, Halo definitely shows its age, but that's not the TV's fault, it's just an old game. As for getting 1080p on a 37" screen, some people say it won't matter, some people say they can tell the difference. There's not going to be any one definitive answer. And I'd have to agree with whoever said that 37" isn't that small at all - it may look small when it's sitting next to a 52", but when it's sitting in your living room or bedroom, it can be surprisingly large.
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A simple calibration DVD isnt worth the disc it's formated on so dont waste your money, and there isnt an article anywhwere on the internet thats going to allow to set your $2000+ investment like a professional. The equipment they use in some cases cost more then the TV you just bought, dont become a victim to the hype of inexpensive calibration dvd's. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/2004/picture-perfect-tv-calibration-demystified.html Heres the closest thing to a real time dvd calibration system. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/tutorial/2600/step-by-step-how-to-use-spydertv-pro-to-calibrate-an-hdtv.html Done waste your money on junk, just have it done right.

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[QUOTE="Invader_basic"][QUOTE="ArcticCat500"]for what it's worth, go out and spend 2K+ on a TV, either LCD or Plasma most cant tell the subtle differences and you'll never truly enjoy the tv until you have it professionally calibrated, these tv's are set at thier factories to outshine the tv sitting next to it on the shelf, when we get it home we think it looks great all the while it's just one big spotlight burning a hole in our heads and causing pre-mature wear on our sets. If you out to spend 2K on a TV, whats another couple hundred to get exactly what you've paid for. Calibrate it, you wont beleive it till you see it.ArcticCat500

Or even better, save your money and buy a calibration DVD so you can do it yourself.

or EVEN better, save more money by visiting AVS forums and reading calibration threads for your TV model and jot down the settings.

If you're willing to spend a couple hundred dollars for someone to come in and make some tweaks to your TV when you can make almost all of the important changes yourself with the help of a calibration disc, well more power to you. The website you link to even offers a calibration disc of their own, in addition to several articles which explain the benefits of using such a disc - I'd hardly say they support your claim that a calibration disc isn't worth its plastic. What I wonder is, why do you so strongly support people paying a professional for calibration service? What do you stand to gain? And why are you so vehemently against the affordable alternative?
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The biggest problem I have with file-sharing services like limewire is that the quality of the song files is so uneven it's unreal. There are just way too many garbage files out there that were terribly encoded, and with no or incorrect tags. I can't stand going in and having to edit the files myself to make them show up the way they should on my MP3 player, only to find that the song was ripped from some internet radio broadcast because the DJ starts talking at the end, polluting the song. I'm willing to pay for a music download even if only it ensures that the songs are of a good quality encoding, with the correct tags, and unpolluted with unnecessary talking or crossfade into another song. Not to mention that services like that are practically crammed to the brim with files carrying viruses and spyware.
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for what it's worth, go out and spend 2K+ on a TV, either LCD or Plasma most cant tell the subtle differences and you'll never truly enjoy the tv until you have it professionally calibrated, these tv's are set at thier factories to outshine the tv sitting next to it on the shelf, when we get it home we think it looks great all the while it's just one big spotlight burning a hole in our heads and causing pre-mature wear on our sets. If you out to spend 2K on a TV, whats another couple hundred to get exactly what you've paid for. Calibrate it, you wont beleive it till you see it.ArcticCat500
Or even better, save your money and buy a calibration DVD so you can do it yourself.
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