well theres online but it barely works, -------------------------------------- I did agree on some points with you, but dude...what[s hardcore for you??? Some 360/ps3 games are faster to finish than galaxy. ABout the Online, I cant believe you say the online on MK is not working, you may have some issues with your wifi, I havent seen such an excellent online experience on wii, and sometimes it feels on par with XBL, I wonder why they didnt improved it for smash bros. As for why the system is on its majority directed towards casual gamers is because the new market is creating, I hope, as you and many people do, that sooner than later more important and better done games are launched for the system. Regards!!