[QUOTE="Redfingers"]

Ratchet> Banjo

Yes I can

It's made by Naughty Dog, there are platforming elements en masse

Ace Combat is supposedly a timed exclusive

Most insane statement I've ever read. For a reality check, compare GTHD to Forza 2. Then, magnify expectations by 5 and see a Forza 2 ***stomping party in the future.

Again: announced 2008 titles>unannounced 2008 titles...360 has what in 2008?

MCGSMB

Something tells me that you have never played Forza 2.

Something tells me that the way you judge a games worth is based purely on how good it looks.

And something tells me that you are going to get a massive reality check when E3 rolls around and Sony isn't the only one announcing new games.

Something tells me the way he judges games is with his Sony blinders on. If it isn't on the PS3 it sucks, and if it is on the PS3 and another console, it is better on the PS3. He is simply a fanboy.

[QUOTE="MCGSMB"]Also, who cares if GTAIV etc come out on the PS3 as well. The fact of the matter is that the 360 has them, the 360 is 200 dollars cheaper, and the 360 also has a bunch of other games. The fact that it also comes out on the PS3 doesn't mean that the game suddenly no longer exist.Redfingers

But it makes the point null. Plan on playing any of those multiplats online? How much does Live go for lately? You so sure about that "$200 cheaper" statement? I hope you don't own Wi-Fi....

I am 100% POSITIVE the 360 is $200 cheaper. There is no getting around that with lame arbitrary arguments. The 360 is $399, the PS3 is $599. It doesn't matter if you own WIFI, or play online, the PS3 is $200 more. PERIOD.

Ratchet> Banjo

Yes I can

It's made by Naughty Dog, there are platforming elements en masse

Ace Combat is supposedly a timed exclusive

Most insane statement I've ever read. For a reality check, compare GTHD to Forza 2. Then, magnify expectations by 5 and see a Forza 2 ***stomping party in the future.

Again: announced 2008 titles>unannounced 2008 titles...360 has what in 2008?

Redfingers

Haha. I love how you think so highly of your opinion. GTHD, well for want of a better word, sucks. It is a boring ass tech demo. So multiplying that by 5 is not saying much. Forza 2 on the other hand, is a great game. I really hope PD comes out with some better AI, and damage in GT5, or else I will have to pass, as I am tired of playing the same game over and over again.

[QUOTE="funbunny"]Listing a bunch of games that haven't been released and acting like they matteris weak sauce whether you're a 360 or PS3 fanboy. It's hard to argue, however, that the 360 has the lead on the PS3. Both have potentially great games coming out down the road but the PS3 has a lot of work to do to match the 360 library.Jibil

If us ps3 owners can't list future releases then this forum is basically left to the 360s... praising gears...like this.."oh gears..look at thetextures...check outthe multiplayer...ooooh"

For all ps3 user I say Obliv is way better on ps3 and motorstorm is better than forza 2, wait till warhawk, haze and socom, peace

Hahaha. Have you even played Oblivion? LOL. Way better Hahaha. Then you go off the deep end comparing a great racer like Forza to a half assed game like MS.

[QUOTE="funbunny"]Listing a bunch of games that haven't been released and acting like they matteris weak sauce whether you're a 360 or PS3 fanboy. It's hard to argue, however, that the 360 has the lead on the PS3. Both have potentially great games coming out down the road but the PS3 has a lot of work to do to match the 360 library.Redfingers

No, it's not. So far, I own this thread.

How so? By listing a bunch of games with a TBA release date, when the thread is about THIS YEAR! I guess it is easy to win an argument when you get to change the rules and go create a whole new argument as you see fit. LOL. Get over yourself. Oh yeah, just thought I would throw this out there. Halo3 will be the biggest grossing game of '07. Mark my words. The PS3 will not release a game this year that will touch it. I would ALMOST be willing to say that it will sell more by itself than any 2 '07 PS3 games of your choosing combined, but not quite willing to say it though.

Forza 2: GT5 eats it alive

Redfingers

No... It doesn't Forza is a much better game than GT. GT has brought nothing new to the table since the original. All the while it has no damage and horrendous AI compared to Forza. Don't get me wrong, I like GT, but it is NOT better than Forza. Of course this is my opinion, just like you shared yours.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Socrates88"][QUOTE="PelekotansDream"]

This is the Sony I want.

If they can admit weaknesses and try to solve them without being smug I am sure they will get back on track.

Socrates88

My question to you is you think they can't solve a weakness without admitting it?

My suggestion is that one of Sony's weaknesses was in refusing to admit their weaknesses. And the only way to solve that problem is to open up and be honest....step down off of the corporate pedestal.

You know what funny is they have this arrogant swagger since they wanted to beat out Dreamcast, yet no one really cared back then. The truth is the arrogance of the price tag they select to put on the PS3 made people upset. I saw your post but didn't comment on the "cognitive dissonance". People really can't afford $600 dollars so their excuse is "Sony arrogance" is the reason they don't buy the PS3.

I own a PS3, and think Sony is to arrogant. Next Gen starts when we say it does..... I don't mind a little arrogance, but that is taking it a bit to far IMHO.

and at least their telling the fans that they can expect updates, and they know their online is behind
360 hasnt even aknoledged the broken xbox problem.
whenever sony has an issue they get right on it and update. kreestoph

Like the PS2 DRE that Sony ended up losing a cla$$action suit over. Yeah they jumped all over that one. If you pulled of your Sony blinders, you could see that they don't give a damn about you.

[QUOTE="PelekotansDream"]

This is the Sony I want.

If they can admit weaknesses and try to solve them without being smug I am sure they will get back on track.

Socrates88

My question to you is you think they can't solve a weakness without admitting it?

No but it takes more of a man to admit a weakness than to act smug about their strentghs. IMO.

the ps2 had way better single player games than xbox.and now that the game market is expanding (next gen), would actually be a good time to update psn (home),
and whats with the too little too late? the online is there.. i dont cry cuz i dont have xbox live menues to comfort me. the only good xbox game is gear of war anyways. and even thats dead now. kreestoph

Haha. Oh really? I guess that means the PS3 still has yet to get a good game then right?