Their is DC vs Forza thread on the front page right now with a poll, the majority of people voted Forza will be better, Forza has more hype, you cant argue with that, yes there were some cows that said DC will be better, but then there were also Lems who said Forza will be better, thats what you get with fanboys. of course you people will say "oh cows over hype their games" but Lems a guilty of the exact same thing. It seems youre only considdering things from your perspective. IMO i think this board has more Hermits.

Very true, and I remember a FH2 vs DC thread a while ago, and the majority of people voted FH2 was gonna be the better game, turns out FH2 had more hype. and the majority of people were hyping FH2 AA in the hype thread even though Lemmings claimed it was "the best racer ever". the truth is Lems will hype their games and cows will hype theirs, but still you get the usaul suspects jumping in on the cow hating badwagon on each thread.

@blackace: Dude, why are you counting HD collections from last gen? He was talking about PS4 and Xbone. of course PS3 had more ports last gen because Sony had a lot more exclusive franchises from PS2 to port over. the reason the Xbox 360 diddnt have much HD collections last gen was because Microsoft had stuff all exclusives to port, now that Microsoft has somewhat built a few more first party exclusives, they actually have some games to port over to the Xbone.

@GrenadeLauncher: I thought Sunset Overdrive looked very good when i saw the first gameplay, but after E3 I have lost a bit of interest, it doesnt seem to look as good as when i first saw it, It seems a little repetitive, youre right about that.

@Floppy_Jim: LOL, I dont know why Lems find it offensive when cows hype their games, Lems did the exact same thing with TitanFall but MUCH worse. Ryse was overhyped and then flopped hard even Forza Horizon 2 is getting much more hype than DriveClub, Quantum Break seems to have just as much if not more hype than The Order: 1886, and yet its Cows that only hype their exclusives? Lems need a break from system wars.

@mr_huggles_dog:

The Order and Quantum breaks gameplay is similar, but QB just has time powers or stutters, The Order also has slow motion, both are very similar at their core. although The order seems to have a better cover mechanic, you can slightly lean in and out, and the Order will probably have a better story.

The reason theres a lot of backlash is because Tomb Raider has millions of fans across many systems, really the issue isnt about console war crap or Sony fanboys. Genuine Tomb Raider fans are pissed off, only radical Xbox fanboys are happy about this.

@freedomfreak: I agree with you, The only people who are happy about this are radical Xbox fanboys (who probably diddnt even play the first game) but for The hardcore Tomb Raider fans, this is bullshit, and Im not even a fan of the series, but i do feel sorry for the majority of the fans that cant play the game anymore.

Also many people are forgetting about the new Ratchet and Clank game confirmed for PS4 in the first half of 2015. It was announced on the PS blog that we will get our first look at the game in a couple months.

Lems and Herms know damn well this aint pre rendered, theyre just desperate to downplay how good the trailer looked.