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#1 Last-Resort
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Well, that's not quite true. SNES is based on Apple II GS tech (which came out in 1986) whereas NES is a decidedly older design dating back to 1983 (Famicom) or even older in computer terms (1975 computer technology).

Also, SNES could do hardware scaling and rotation (i.e. Mode 7), had much more RAM and so on.

Mario World was fine but Pilotwings did a better job at demonstrating it's capabilites (i.e. Mode 7).

nameless12345

Yes, but they actually started to use the machine for these abilities more later. many games seemed to be just Nes ports with more colors. For the first 2 years anyway. As for the GEN, it seemed to have upscaled SMS games.

NES could handle Pilotwings, F-Zero and Super Mario Kart? I think not.

It's true the pirates ported some SNES games over to the NES (such as SMW, DKC and SFII) but even then the difference is huge.

For example here's the SFII port for NES:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQjFpGB6_k

Not bad but not really comparable to the SNES version.

I wasn't talking about effects, I was talking about graphics and animation.
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

cause you are one of these IM TOO GOOD PC ELITISTS that have no answers for me. I see your avatar, thats a PC ELITIST avatar, its lame btw, and my rig is better than yours and I know more about PC thans you, building computers, making them faster, and everything else that goes with A/V. Dont ry me and upgrade that RIG

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The thread has ended why? "360 is a better deal than PC and cheaper with better games." later "I know all about PC gaming, and have bullt a high-end rig better than most elitists on the site even though the 360 is a better deal." Thank you for accidentally admitting PC is a better deal than the Xbox. /thread over.

oh this must be a low level alt who was owned earlier

I've made literally 4x more posts than you in the same time frame. How and I an alt? Also, you literally did do that, you can't say the 360is a better deal and is useless to have a high level pc then turn and say you have built a higher level pc than the people your making fun of.
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[QUOTE="Last-Resort"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol@360 outselling the Wii. The Wii has like a 40 million lead on the 360.

As for the PS3...

  • The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.
  • The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.
  • The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.
  • The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.
  • The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.
  • The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.
  • The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.
  • The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

I think it's safe to say that the 360 is selling the least amount out of all 3 consoles. The 360 is still a good system, though. Sales aren't in any way indicative of quality. I never use sales as a supporting argument when determining how good something is, but I just felt the need to prove you wrong because it's funny.

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That argument doesn't work when Xbox had no brand power for 2 years Also, TC, as wrong as TC is was talking about 2011, not outselling the Wii whole, unless he edited it.

360 was the top selling console ww in 2011, and will be in 2012, deal with it.

I just said that.
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[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

yet if i was so pathetic you wouldnt keep having to respond to me, you know im right, im laughing about you, and btw, get a better RIG.

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Responding goes both ways. How the **** would you know what my rig setup is?

cause you are one of these IM TOO GOOD PC ELITISTS that have no answers for me. I see your avatar, thats a PC ELITIST avatar, its lame btw, and my rig is better than yours and I know more about PC thans you, building computers, making them faster, and everything else that goes with A/V. Dont ry me and upgrade that RIG

The thread has ended why? "360 is a better deal than PC and cheaper with better games." later "I know all about PC gaming, and have bullt a high-end rig better than most elitists on the site even though the 360 is a better deal." Thank you for accidentally admitting PC is a better deal than the Xbox. /thread over.
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Lol@360 outselling the Wii. The Wii has like a 40 million lead on the 360.

As for the PS3...

  • The Xbox 360 has sold 65.6 million units worldwide.
  • The Xbox 360 launched on November 16th, 2005.
  • The Xbox 360 has been on the market for 77 months / 6.42 years.
  • The average Xbox 360 console sales per year has been 10.22 million consoles.
  • The Playstation 3 has sold 62.9 million units worldwide.
  • The Playstation 3 launched on November 17th, 2006.
  • The Playstation 3 has been on the market for 65 months / 5.42 years.
  • The average Playstation 3 console sales per year has been 11.61 million consoles.

I think it's safe to say that the 360 is selling the least amount out of all 3 consoles. The 360 is still a good system, though. Sales aren't in any way indicative of quality. I never use sales as a supporting argument when determining how good something is, but I just felt the need to prove you wrong because it's funny.

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That argument doesn't work when Xbox had no brand power for 2 years Also, TC, as wrong as TC is was talking about 2011, not outselling the Wii whole, unless he edited it.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It's all up to the third party developers to make a system "focus on core gamers".

First party games lead the way, and cement third party perception of a system. When Nintendo's first party efforts on the DS and Wii were casual, third parties followed it up with casual games. Nintendo makes their marquee titles for the 3DS core, third parties follow.

It doesn't work that way. Especially for Nintendo. BTW, GS hates your user name because I keep getting this error: " The quoted username can only be a-z, 0-9, space - and _"
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Do you believe that?

It's pretty clear Wii U will get a ton of western support, at least all the big publishers will be there.

But 3DS? I can't see that happening. What games are we talking about? I can think of CoD and Fifa, what else? Oh yeah that Mickey Mouse game too, a cartoony 2D platformer haha

charizard1605

When Iwata himself promises more western games for 3DS to be unveiled at E3, yes, I believe him.

Just like you believed him all those other ti- wait. So anyway, iwata has no idea what he is talking about, time to sacrifice him in the circle and bring back gunpei.

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I don't know. The Genesis/SuperNintendo war was pretty crazy also. And that was when console wars were face to face. :)TomatoDragonPSN
Naw, people burning down shops for selling 2600 only because they though Mattel was outdated and a satanic company was much worse, this is just people on computers being annoying.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="free_milk"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Really? Kid Icarus is not hardcore? Resident Evil is not hardcore? Mario Kart and Mario 3D Land are not hardcore? Stretching, aren't we?

Kid Icarus is just a rail shooter with bad ground control 3d land is to easy and short Mario kart only has good multiplayer and is based on luck And I said it's not the quality it's the way u play it

Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. Kid Icarus is a third person shooter game, divided one thirds into a rail shooter,
and two thirds into ion ground parts which afford complete movement Super Mario 3D Land has two halves: the first half, which is the easy and short portion, and the second half, which is balls sweating difficult and adds to the length so much. Mario Kart 7 has incredible item balance. Also, how can you play any of these games with your family? How wold you play Mario with your family? Like I said, you're stretching. Please play the games before you comment on them.

Difficulty does not mean the game can't be casual. Mario Kart is still catching up to CTR and SP/SF for item balance, control, physics, drifting, sliding, design, track design, and car statistics. The game is still as casual and luck based as ever.
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[Quote="Eurogamer"]

Nintendo's strategy with the 3DS's early years and its forthcoming Wii U launch is to put core-orientated games ahead of efforts to attract the mass market, according to CEO Satoru Iwata.

Speaking in aninvestor Q&Afollowing itsfinancial reportlast week, Iwata explained that the platform holder has learned from mistakes made with the Wii.

While that console succeeded in attracting new customers with more casual titles such as Wii Sports, he admitted Nintendo had then struggled to convince core gamers to take the platform seriously, which negatively impacted the system's long term success.

"The Wii was able to reach a large number of new consumers who had never played games before by bringing hands-on experiences with its Wii Sports and Wii Fit," he explained.

"However, we could not adequately create the situation that such new consumers played games frequently or for long, consistent periods. As a result, we could not sustain a good level of profit.

"Moreover, regrettably, what we prioritised in order to reach out to the new audience was a bit too far from what we prioritised for those who play games as their hobby. Consequently, we presume some people felt that the Wii was not a game system for them or they were not willing to play with the Wii even though some compelling games had been released."

Accordingly, Iwata explained, it decided not to flood the 3DS's early release slate with casual games, instead prioritising core titles such as Super Mario 3D Land, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Ocarina of Time 3D and Mario Kart 7. It intends to take a similar approach with the Wii U when it launches later this year.

"Once consumers have a notion that 'this system is not for us', we have learned that it is extremely difficult to change their perceptions later," said Iwata.

"Therefore, in promoting the Nintendo 3DS and the Wii U, we have announced that we would like 'width' and 'depth' to coexist.

"With the Nintendo DS and the Wii, the approach of 'width' was well accepted by many people; however, what we did in terms of 'depth' was not satisfactory for some consumers. This time, we would like consumers to be satisfied in both aspects.

"In order to do so, we started to work on the 'depth' aspect first, and the current and existing software you can see for the Nintendo 3DS is based on that idea. In the future, the approach will evolve," he continued.

"Our approach for the Wii U is basically the same. By doing so continuously, we are expecting that the number of game users per household will increase and as the gaming population increases, we believe we can create a sustainable video game market."charizard1605

He seems to get it, and thankfully, it's not just empty words: looking at the 3DS, it's clear that the strategy is already in place. Where the DS's lineup was defined by games like Brain Age, Electroplankton, and Nintendogs, the 3DS's is defined by Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Kid Icarus: Uprising, and Resident Evil: Revelations.

If they can apply this same strategy to the Wii U too, we will have a system worth owning on our hands.

WTF are you talking about? MK7, M3d, and a hand hold evil are all casual. Also, the hardcore plan of the 3DS originally involved those old game ports, that backfired. The only for Nintendo to redeem themselves is if they ritually sacrafice Shingeru and Iwata and bring back Gunpei.