Well I've been playing for a couple of days now with the new hard drive in the machine and all seems to be working fine. Skyrim is still glitchy, but that is to be expected. Thanks again for everyones help.

I was really wanting it to fix the skyrim issues, since Bethesda hasn't. Sadly it didn't.

A lot of my favs have already been mentioned. I would like to throw out Borderlands as a very fun game.

I've gone out to youtube to view some tutorials. In some it shows or mentions using some sort of thumb drive to load system update software from a computer prior to the disk swap, so when the machine doesn't recognise the hard drive you can load that. On other demos they show the plugging in a new drive letting the system format it then doing a recover of the game data you saved off earlier, as if the system software we never removed.

I'm wondering if this different method is based on the model you have? Do I need the ps3 system version software to load back on or is that already on my machine?

I'd be happy if they had an option for you to just play games and remove all the rest. I don't want or need browser, music, photos, TV, or any of the other stuff. I play games. (thats a real period) the rest of the stuff just creates points of failure for my game machine. I don't want updates that makes MY game machine compatable with some other product their pushing, again this will only open the door for issues.

I don't think it's the system that is bad, as some games play great. Others that have large open world loads tend to get choppy sometimes. Games from Bethesda tend to lead the pack, but then again for all the issues they, still make great games I love to play. So if an upgrade for more space will allow me to play those types of games then that I guess is what is called for. With the limited space I've found myself deleting older games and saved data off the machine just to load the new ones. Not an issue, unless I get nostalgic and want to return to an old favorite.

Thanks for all the advise.

Double_Wide Thank you. That was one of the most comprehensive answers to a post I think I have ever read. As you can tell I don't post often, and a concise and thorough answer like that was unexpected to say the least. I think I may try that method, especially after ready up that the new PS3won't allow me to play my older games. No clue what they were thinking on that decision.

Thanks again.

Need some advise. I'm one of the many users having issues with Skyrim frame rate. I've had this before with other games. So I've been thinking maybe it's time for a new PS3. I am currently playing on one of the original fat 60gb PS3s. To prevent remedy type answers, my machine is clean. My question is would it be a better investment to purchase a new type of hard drive to put in the old box or buy a new PS3 with more space? Would more space even effect the ram type issues?

Thanks in advance for your replies.