Yeah, as I’m reading it, this effectively doesn’t deprive us of due process, but in technicality of jurisdiction, effectively does.

If the government can snatch you up for whatever reason it deems suitable and ship you off to a 3rd world torture prison before the courts can say anything…..welp, sorry, you DID have your due process rights while you were here, but now you’re not, so enjoy your new life in prison that required no evidentiary substantiation whatsoever…..aside the discretion of the con man president who deemed it so.

Man, I tell ya…..I really could use some reassurances to talk me down from my “silliness” and “hyperbole” these days.

To refresh:

•Get a criminal con man into the heights of power ✅

•create DOGE and appoint a billionaire to oversee the stripping of governmental oversight under the pretense of removing fraud and increasing efficiency ✅

•announce ”Liberation Day” in the most antagonistic, dramatic, and public way possible, announcing ridiculous tariffs, causing markets to plummet in panic ✅

•use ”manufacturing” and ”unfair trade” as an “American 1st” cover to gain support and distract attention away ✅

•have yourself and your billionaire buddies get while the gettin’s gooood… ✅

•say, ”nah, just joking, it’s all good for 90 days” ✅

•sit back and watch the markets soar ✅

•PROFIT! ✅

Rinse & repeat in 3 months. Anyone want to investigate? Oops sorry, those folks got let go for efficiency and “fraud” by Elon.

Yes, they most certainly did.

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.....and now for the proof:

3-1/2 hours before Trump announced the raising of the tariffs, he posted "This is a great time to buy!! DJT"

Cute, as DJT is just Donnie's initials, yet it's also the stock symbol for "Trump Media & Technology Group Corp" on the stock market. Of course, him posting DJT after the exclamation points gives him plausible deniability to claim he was only using his initials to sign off instead of him suggesting people to buy DJT stock.

But that doesn't stop him from blatantly bragging about his billionaire buddies enriching themselves at the expense of our economy and the destroyed investments of countless.

This guy isn't even attempting to hide his corruption and criminality. Maybe the one remaining person at the SEC can start an investigation.

These are all reactionary concessions to unbelievable economic imbecility that was given zero consideration prior to their implementation aside their performative benefits. Now that the actual economic ramifications are in the mail, Trump's going to be scrambling to make concessions while trying to maintain the initial posture he desired to send.

I'm sure he's being screamed at by many, many people, at least to the extent their sycophancy, fear, and considerations towards their political futures would allow for. But yeah, these are things that should have been done beforehand. The worst thing about all of this is it didn't NEED to happen. Which is what makes me heavily tend towards the goal of market manipulation, even if that's not the plan altogether. Dude's nothing but a criminal.

Elect a criminal, institutionalize criminality.

It makes sense if you ignore the complete BS rationale that Trump and his cronies spew, alongside a large helping of managerial incompetence. There's no upside, it's only the bad piled underneath the worse.

So, aside from Trump annihilating our economy through his rampant stupidity and narcissism....

.....while the ECOTUS has kicked the case of returning Garcia back down to the Circuits, it's my understanding of this ruling that there's no way to enforce such action, and that as long as Garcia is outside of the States, the courts hold no jurisdiction over the Executive in its dealings with foreign affairs. Effectively rendering the Judiciary to hold its dick in its hands, asking criminals and bigots in our government nicely not to be criminals and bigots.

Seems as if the court punted, maintaining the appearance of law and order and our rights while leaving the administration an out to subvert it on a technicality. Will have to finish perusing this ruling to understand it fully, but this is what it appears at this point, as I see no reason to clarify what "facilitate" means, aside for the Trump regime to find an angle that the ECOTUS afforded them.

Hope you're proud, MAGAs.

Yeah honestly, I miss the guy. He was fun, even though he was beyond all hope.

@drfecalstein: What are you guys even talking about?

Another user who got banned and attempted to ban dodge.

No, doesn't feel like Sarge to me. Sarge wasn't so articulate in his cultishness. Plus grammar is differently structured (and much less grammatical errors) and prose is off.

This dude's new. If it is Sarge/Bigballs, kudos for him in pulling off such a convincing shift....at the very least, the name aligns.

@drfecalstein said:

@MirkoS77 said:

I still have yet to be explained by MAGA why it was necessary to come out and announce these tariffs in this way. How does it benefit us in the manner of execution that this has been undertaken? If we were so being taken advantage of, why didn’t Trump contact each country and attempt to negotiate behind the scenes, using the threat of tariffs as a leveraging tool?

That way, you don’t put markets in complete chaos and wipe trillions of market value away, you don’t piss off every single country in the world collectively and align them against you, you don’t cause anticipatory layoffs, you don’t wipe out peoples portfolios, among every other thing. There was a way to accomplish his stated goal without incurring all this damage. So it begs the question: why was a massive and antagonistic announcement required that sent the planet into a panic? I have to say, I’m tending towards this being not about bringing manufacturing back, not about negotiating better trade, but simple market manipulation to enrich himself and his billionaire buddies. It needed to be public, and it needed to be drastic….”manufacturing” and “negotiations” are simply a cover.

Because that would not be effective and you would get nothing done. Not going to each country and try to get them to change 1 by 1.. Countries would drag their feet, try to stretch it out and never concede anything, why would they without any pressure. I liked trumps strategy of just using reciprocal tariffs across the board, it puts it on a timer and applies pressure so that countries take it seriously. He is still giving everyone a window to make a deal happen but now there is pressure. I see it as a win win, if other countries offer a good fair deal then great, we get something to help us out on trade/trade deficits. If they dont make a good deal (refuse to drop their existing tariffs on us, refuse to get rid of other trade barriers on us) then the tariffs will just go into effect and we will get it that way.

The market will be fine, sure you will have turbulence in the short term but in the long term this will be very beneficial to the US economy. Something like this should have been done decades ago.

We just want more fair trade, I don't care if other countries are pissed off at the reciprocal tariffs, maybe we are pissed off at their existing tariffs/trade barriers against us.

This "market manipulation" "insider trading" angle I see the left trying to push is very silly lol Trump has been talking about trade and how the U.S gets ripped off for decades. This is his last chance to try and fix it and the guy is going for it. Haters be damned.

First, you need to clarify just what are Trump's intentions. Is it to bring manufacturing back to the States? Alright, let's go with that.

Now explain to me how it behooves Trump's goal to have businesses completely upend their manufacturing, invest millions, and take years to build their factories in the U.S. while he's "keeping the other side guessing about his true intentions and bottom line" and "is willing to walk away" with the very tariffs he is using as a means to enforce such a drastic shift? Reconcile the usage of brutal tariffs as a negotiating tool with the necessity of their permanence in enforcing this?

What you are advocating for here is not only sheer chaos, it is also entirely incompatible within the context of actions that necessitate stability and foundation--long-term stability and foundation in economic policy--but also the confidence of business leaders in the conviction of that stability who will be taking the plunge predicated upon it that will be putting millions, and for many, their entire future on the line. No company on Earth is going to start moving a single muscle towards such massive economic upheaval when the one negotiating is fluctuating, willy nilly, the very thing that is forcing their hand, especially when he comes out and says, "Well, people were getting a bit afraid, getting a bit Yippy". I'm sorry, didn't the "Art of the Deal" recognize that this will, yea, probably cause a bit of fear and uncertainty? Guess not.

....but let's grant that that's not really Trump's goal here at all, that this is just all part of the brilliance of Trump's masterful business acumen that has all us idiots clueless and deranged in witnessing it until the grand golden utopia descends upon us. It's after all only trillions lost, peoples' investments decimated, and our relations with trading partners left in complete tatters BEFORE the deal has even been made.

Threatening blanket tariffs across the board in such a public manner is nothing but punitive, and is antithetical to attaining the goals that have been posited for their implementation. Both of them. The manufacturing point aside, what will be accomplished won't be making everyone run to us, it will (very justifiably) create panic and quickly solidify economic solidarity and resolve amongst everyone else AGAINST us. We are not the only gorilla in the zoo, and if you believe that this is going to make everyone come groveling at Trump's feet like scared little puppies offering concessions to his whims, you're mistaken. It will alienate us and leave us in a much weaker global position economically, with the added benefit of higher costs and destroyed relationships. But I'm sure Trump and his pals are doing quite well, as apparently there's been an inordinate amount of trading activity in the past week. Let's launch an investigation into it.

Again, you'd be up for that right? What am I asking, of course you would......you folks are from the party of law and order after all.

Oh yeah, I especially enjoyed this:

"Well that makes sense if you read the Guardian and take their word for it instead of the god damn president lol."

Clue: the president is a god damn liar and conman. A cursory examination of his life is enough to see this, maybe you should take some time to do one.

Good news about Garcia…..the SCOTUS kicked it back to the lower court in having the administration “facilitate“ his return, but ruling that he should be.

….but I have no hope whatsoever that the regime is going to bring him back. They will hem and haw, slinging every excuse about jurisdiction or whatever they can grab to play the helpless victim that can’t do anything. All bad faith arguments.

I hope his wife can find some other alternative, perhaps take the court ruling and an attorney to El Salvador and plea on his behalf for them to act.….because there is no way that Trump ever will. I’ll be shocked if they comply. They’re probably hoping he’ll be dead and try to drag it out for as long as they can.

Yeah, it’s always projection to some degree.