[QUOTE="MysteriousKori"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

you are misinformed on alot.

States elect senators and house representatives, so elections wouldnt matter more.

Can you name the bill that ron paul past on the federal reserve so i can look it up?

hes a strict constitutionalist, but the constitution restricted the rights of women and blacks.

repealing obamacare would add to the defecit, not save money.

state senatorial elections would matter more, but the federal senatorial elections would matter less, so i dont see a net increase on the importance of the electoral process.

you linked to an op-ed in the WSJ, written by a conservative activist. The CBO is a non partison committee specifically designed to estimate the impact of financial legislation, so i think they are probably alot more reliable.

you are misinformed on alot.

States elect senators and house representatives, so elections wouldnt matter more.

Can you name the bill that ron paul past on the federal reserve so i can look it up?

hes a strict constitutionalist, but the constitution restricted the rights of women and blacks.

repealing obamacare would add to the defecit, not save money.

[QUOTE="MysteriousKori"][QUOTE="SauceKing"]

do you disagree with him on any issue?

SauceKing

was expecting more details i suppose, but i wont press you.

My experiences with the paul supporter camp is they will say, i dont agree with paul on an issue like abortion.... but they qualify the matter as being insignificant because he could never get legislation passed to outlaw it.

but at the same time, paul has never passed any legislation that i know of during his entire time in the house. Im not sure what people think he can accomplish as president when he has no track record and vastly different views from any congress member.

I guess my question would be, what do you expect to happen during a paul presidency?

I do not quite understand your second sentence. He wants to outlaw abortion? He doesn't want that.. When it comes to all of those issues, he just wants the federal government to get out of things, and leave the power to the states, so that they can decide for themselves. That's why we have state senators, etc. But nowadays because the government is involved in so many things, the states do not have much power. If the power were returned to the states, then local elections would matter more than they do now, and that's what he means by 'returning the power back to the people'.

He actually has passed legislation, it was concerning the Federal Reserve. He was able to get a partial audit and it revealed $16 trillion in secret bailouts. This is why he is so concerned with the Fed. My opinion of the other legislation that has never passed is: ask not why it didn't pass, but why didn't they pass it? He is a strict constitutionalist, therefore it shouldn't be a problem.. The answer? Lobbyists, corrupt senators/congressmen.

During his presidency, he can bring the troops home. He can also veto unconstitutional bills, repeal Obamacare. All of this would save a lot of money, especially with repealing Obamacare.

As for passing his plan to balance the budget, I do think that it would be difficult... The way I think he explained it is that he would cut half from the left and half from the right. He would try to bring both sides together, I recall him also mentioning that the people could put pressure on their senators/congressmen. But take this paragraph with a grain of salt, as I cannot exactly remember what he said concerning this.

[QUOTE="MysteriousKori"]Some of them are, but I don't think that you should categorize all of them into one group. Yes, I do support him.SauceKing

do you disagree with him on any issue?

Neither.

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Ron Paul 53.50%
Herman Cain 25.47%
Mitt Romney 8.88%
Newt Gingrich 5.37%
Rick Perry 2.80%
Jon Huntsman 2.10%
Rick Santorum .93%
Michele Bachmann .47%

The Ohio straw poll results from today. I'm a little surprised Cain got 25%. I thought those were going to be Romney's numbers. Oh well, Ron Paul got first; I'm satisfied.Pikdum

The reason is because Cain got a huge media bump from winning the Florida Straw Poll. Notice how right after he won, he was all over the news, and to this day, continues to be on the news daily. Look at the polls from right after the Florida Straw Poll win. His numbers jumped and he is now 2nd nationally. You could also take a look at Google Trends and see how much of a bump Cain has received from the media. Perry's supporters transferred to Cain, as his poll numbers are dropping.

The media has a huge influence. Recall that McCain was polling 3rd nationally in 2008, and then he received a media bump and proceeded to win the GOP nomination.

What is worse is that all of the supporters that Cain received are completely enamored with him, simply because he "is not a politician." When he actually ran for the senate in 2004, but lost badly. He ran another time, however I cannot recall when exactly. He was also a lobbyist and Kansas Fed Reserve chairman. Also, his supporters adore the 9-9-9 plan, even though both the right and the left have analyzed it and have all come to the same conclusion: It would raise taxes on the middle and lower income families, while lowering taxes on the wealthy They also completely ignore how often he flip-flops, I thought Romney was bad, but he takes 1st place here.

There are a lot of negative truths that you could tell people about Cain, however his supporters continue to adamantly, blindly support him. Shows how much power the media has...

To all who have not been up to date: I would recommend watching the CNN debate from October 18th. There was a good amount of drama, please be prepared.