I believe doctors can use injected local anesthetic for an infant circumcision. I would insist on it for my son's circumcision.

MathMattS

You know what, tenaka2? You are right. I got sidetracked here and apologize for that.
I can not disprove your studies.

I believe there is a reason to doubt their significants due to not being double-blind and only barely passing the requirements for a proper randomized controlled trial. But at the end of the day, I can't disprove them, and even if I could it would be ones words against another's.

In any case those facts aren't relevant to this thread I believe.

not going to fault you for arguing with people who will not change their view on anything no matter what, because i get caught in those conversations sometimes, but it might be time to walk away and let the evidence you have presented speak for its self... unless youre having fun, then go for it.

surrealnumber5

But for a male is not and is hetro why the interest in other guys bodies?

Unless of course there is a religious reason for this that people are not voicing?

tenaka2

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673607603122

Male circumcision significantly reduces the risk of HIV acquisition in young men in Africa. Where appropriate, voluntary, safe, and affordable circumcision services should be integrated with other HIV preventive interventions and provided as expeditiously as possible.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673607603134

Male circumcision reduced HIV incidence in men without behavioural disinhibition. Circumcision can be recommended for HIV prevention in men.

tenaka2

If I have a son someday and have him circumcised, I would insist on anesthesia for him. I wouldn't let them do it without anesthesia.

MathMattS

Um, you can't give a baby anesthesia, it's gonna kill it. The best you can get is some topical lidocaine cream which does nothing to ease the pain, but it at least makes the parents feel better.

Absolutely no reason to apologize. It's been my experience that the vast majority of people on here just shoot from the hip after having done little to no research at all. Also, thank you for your kind words (as they are another rare thing on here).

As for why debate on here? I don't know. Character flaw on my part I guess for letting myself get pulled into it at times.

As for the percentage, I'll have to take another look.

YellowOneKinobi

It's over 66% in the US, just as an FYI.

At the end of the day, I am thankful to have been circumcised. I will do that for my son (sons if our next is a boy). Based on all information I have heard and read (and discussions with our doctors) I find it is the right course of action, as it does no harm and has many long-term benefits. For my son, it is the right decision.

YellowOneKinobi

No, it should be the parent's choice, that's why it's done at birth, who would want to make that decision when they get older, that would suck. Luckily you don't ever realize it happened when your a baby, plus uncut is just gross, my sons will definitely be circumsizedKeredsBlaze

Yes, I consider getting a baby circumcised the same as getting a tattoo for a baby.Lonelynight

I've heard that same arguement time and time again. Not only on this topic, but on others as well.

I hear people going on and on about how parents shouldn't involve (or as they like to say, "indoctrinate") their children in their religion, as they should wait until the kid turns 18 and let him choose his own religion.

At the end of the day it is the parents' right and more importantly their responsibility to do what they think is in the best interest of the child. Thousands upon thousands of choices are made for children. What they eat. How much they sleep. Where they go to school. What types of activities they can engage in. What they watch. Who they socialize with. It's an unending list. Parenting is not about keeping a child in a vacuum.

Again, there is no one set of 'rules' that makes for good parents. If people want to circumsize their kid, thats fine with me. If they don't want to, that's fine with me too. But I draw the line at people trying to force parenting decisions (which are little more than opinions) on others. In this case, banning something like this.

YellowOneKinobi

Of course parents have the obligation to do what they think is best for their child, which also includes operation if needed. However in the case of circumcision, we are talking of something irreversible, which you can live happily without, as proven by the majority of the world's male population, as well as an increasing number of American infants (circumcision rates have fallen below 33% recently), and that doesn't cure any immediate illness. I just think that the parents right ends where their child's body begins. Afterall you can't get your kids tatoos either, no matter how good you think it'll be for his upbringing for one reason or other.

All not circumcising your child does is leaving him with that choice for later. If he doesn't like it he can go get the cut. But if you do get him cut, and he doesn't like it, what is he supposed to do?