[QUOTE="Pageles"]thanks for the answer, I was curiousto see your stance on that. I now see that for the low wage employee the waitress you would gladly 'pay' her extra because of her lower financial status. However for the homeless person you do not 'give' the money away because there was no pre conceived notion of a social relationship between (employee/customer).

I find it odd however that you do not consider the homeless man of lesser social power and do not aid them. Yet you are judgemental of those who dont tip. Unless I missed the point of the post completly.

rawsavon

1. If the homeless man feels wronged by anything I have done, he is free to tell me as such.
...there will be no consequences for him. On that note, he has an equal amount of social power.
An employee is NOT free to do the same. Otherwise, they might lose their job (a job they obviously need...or else they would most likely not be doing it).
They do not have an equal amount of social power. As a result, I view treating them badly the same as treating a helpless animal badly or a mentally challenged person badly

2. The server 'earned' their pay/tip.
I received a service. It is only fair that I pay for that service (as the service is not included in the price of the meal)

The service is included in the price of the meal otherwise there would be no servers at restaurants and they wouldnt even get an hourly wage. The tip is a reward for a job well done.

[QUOTE="Pageles"]So to figure out if you can be friends with someone you go out for dinner and if he doesn't tip even when the service was superb you would stop hanging out with this person? Another question do you give money to all beggars and homeless ppl you meet?

rawsavon

But to answer your question:
I would no longer be friends with someone that treated those with less social power badly.
-this includes not tipping/being a poor tipper
I could be out on a date with the 'perfect' girl...if she treated a server badly, I would pay for the meal (to make sure it got paid for), walk out, and leave her there

To answer your following question:
No, I do not 'give' money away to everyone.
I try and treat those with less social power well. Two people outside of a customer/employee relationship or a boss/employee relationship tend to have equal amounts of social power. How one treats an equal is of little concern to me
-your friends or a lover or a stranger can tell you to f*** off if you treat them badly
-an employee does not have that luxury (less social power in that situation).
That is why (IMO) how you treat those with less social power determines your character

thanks for the answer, I was curiousto see your stance on that. I now see that for the low wage employee the waitress you would gladly 'pay' her extra because of her lower financial status. However for the homeless person you do not 'give' the money away because there was no pre conceived notion of a social relationship between (employee/customer).

I find it odd however that you do not consider the homeless man of lesser social power and do not aid them. Yet you are judgemental of those who dont tip. Unless I missed the point of the post completly.

[QUOTE="Pageles"] I also find it odd that ppl judge others so harshly because of their tipping habits and comments like if you dont tip you shouldn't go out to eat. Everyone can do as they please when it comes to eating out, and what they do with their money is none of your concern. Tipping does not determine who is a good person and who is a bad one.

rawsavon

I have found this issue to be particularly insightful in determining one's character

So to figure out if you can be friends with someone you go out for dinner and if he doesn't tip even when the service was superb you would stop hanging out with this person? Another question do you give money to all beggars and homeless ppl you meet?

I highly doubt that the menu prices would increase drastically if minimum wage were applied. Even with a 30% increase a 30$ dish becomes 39$ but i highly doubt it would increase that much. I can't assume but lets say it raises by 15% thats the tip you would have paid anyway, and if the service is AAAA then you can tip if you please. I still think that if waitresses and waiters were paid more off the get go the tipping culture would be totally different and better in my opinion. I also find it odd that ppl judge others so harshly because of their tipping habits and comments like if you dont tip you shouldn't go out to eat. Everyone can do as they please when it comes to eating out, and what they do with their money is none of your concern. Tipping does not determine who is a good person and who is a bad one.

[QUOTE="Pageles"]Another aspect of this tipping culture i deem unfair is that not all the waitresses make the same wage. The better looking waiter/waitresses tend to make more in tips then other waitresses. rawsavon

Waitressing is a entry level job position. Therefore they should make entry level wages. The tipping is what makes the difference in wage. If all waiters/waitresses made 10$ minimum wage (thats what it is where i live) then tips would be less of a factor in determining your wage. Ppl will still tip if the service is good so basically there will still be discrepancies in the wages. The gap however will be much smaller and everyone basically makes more money.

I believe that waitresses should be paid minimum wage from the get go. I will gladly pay more for their food/services , and if this said waitress or waiter goes beyond that i expected I could tip them then. Another aspect of this tipping culture i deem unfair is that not all the waitresses make the same wage. The better looking waiter/waitresses tend to make more in tips then other waitresses. I believe that all waitresses/waiters should make the same wage because they are doing the same job. I find that the tipping culture does not produce better waiters/waitresses. During my life I've had the same amount of bad service as good. I always tipped regardless but this notion that possible tip = great service is BS. Someone having a terrible day regardless of where they work will suffer somewhat at the workplace.

All this talk that tipping = wage , and that all wage comes out of the pocket of consumers drives me nuts. Of course the consumer is the one who pays for these wage increases however I would rather have a waitress get paid minimum wage off the get go then see this person suffer because a bad day they had caused bad tips. Some ppl just don't tip regardless of service so by increasing the wage no one fights over the ethics of tipping.

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