This list is a complete freaking JOKE. A whole bunch of "Unannounced titles by unannouced dev etc" NONSENSE. Do you know howmany of these games are annouced and then cancelled for ALL systems?

Hell you have a lot of multiplatforms games on that list, and games that certainly aren't exclusive.

Hell at NEOGAF they are laughing like mad over this topic. Stop embarassing yourself.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162709

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13669/Prince-of-Persia-Clas sic-Arrives-This-Wednesday/

[QUOTE="SkyCastleDan"]So Potentialstation 3 gets another game we can all keep looking forward to rather than playing. YAY!nhh12345

Mac support ftw.kodex1717

[QUOTE="jesseandnikki"][QUOTE="gogeta242"]

I own both a PS3 and a 360. If you don't believe me, my PS3 gamertag is SSJ4Goku, my 360 gamertag is xxSSJ4Gokuxx. Now that thats out of the way, I just want to know whats so good about 360's line up. I mean PS3 has MGS4, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Lair, Ninja Gaiden, Socom,Folklore, Haze,Warhawk. What does 360 have to compete this year thats so great. All I see is Halo 3 and Mass Effect, but I'll give a list anyways: Halo 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Two Worlds, Cry On, and Blue Dragon. You have to be smoking to say the 360 has a better lineup. Tell whats so great about this lineup that makes you Lemmings say "teh 360 lineup kills teh PS3 lineup"

gogeta242

How about the fact that people who own a 360 and not a PS3 can play the same games (good multiplatforms) for AT LEAST $100 less. I know your talking about exclusives but who cares as long as it's fun? So many good games are coming out this year and even if they are on the PS3 as well I still get to play them without having to had spent $200 extra on a PS3.

If getting multiplats for cheaper is a reason to get a console, something is wrong:|

The vast majority of titles that people enjoy, are third party MULTIPLATFORM GAMES.

First, the official news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070607/bs_nm/sony_job_cuts_dc

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/07/sony-announces-ps3-related-job-cuts-in-us-forgets-to-mention/

Sony announces PS3-related job cuts in US -- forgets to mention when or how many

Posted Jun 7th 2007 5:00AM by Thomas Ricker
Filed under: Gaming

It's not like we didn't see it coming or anything what with Sony's game division -- home of the PS3 -- recently posting a $1.91 billion loss for the year. But man, our hearts go out to those whose jobs at Sony Computer Entertainment are now on the chopping block. Thing is, Sony, while announcing plans to cut jobs in the US, is only turning the screw deeper by not providing any details. The move comes as Sony struggles to keep up with Nintendo which again snagged top-honors for the 4th consecutive month in the US market: 360,000 Wiis sold to the PS3's 82,000 while Microsoft sold 174,000 Xbox 360s. The gap between the Wii and PS3 sales in Japan is just as bad, if not worse. Fortunately for Sony, their Bravia LCD TVs, VAIO computers, and Handycams are all doing well enough to (mostly) offset the PS3 related losses. We'll have to wait and see if Sony's summer game catalog, bigger disks, and possible price cuts can reverse SCE's fortunes.

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Next, the PS3 insider known as "Sony Prophet" on the PS3forums talking about the job cuts a DAY before the official pres release today!

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=76759

Sony is in seriously deep ****.

You all know me as a fairly obvious Sony loyalist - and I still love my PS3. Damn thing's fun, even if the pickings are slim. My PSP goes everywhere I go. I love it. I say this because I don't want you to think this is fanboy rhetoric. I just want you to know what's going on.

Anyway, here's the situation...

PS3 hasn't been selling so hot. It's a fact that no one can reasonably contest. The system is sold at a monumental loss (several hundred dollars each, in fact) with the plan to make up the difference in software sales and royalties. Looking at the current situation (just go visit a Gamestop and check out the PS3 section), you can see the trouble with that in the short term.

Now one might say the long term plan is sound. Lose lots of money now, make it up later. Well there's another problem - many of the really huge 2007 titles are now 2008 titles. Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid, etc - and many of the killer-app exclusives (Assassins Creed, Devil May Cry) are no longer exclusives. You can say Sony planned for that too. The best titles for any system, after all, are the first party titles. God of War 2 is one of SCEs biggest successes... and while games like Ratchet and LAIR have their own online followings, they are nevertheless niche titles... not GTA/GoW/Halo level blockbusters. Even Uncharted, which is amazing btw, is slipping under the radar.

Ok, now that you know all that... how are the short term losses looking now? Well, they're bloody astronomical. The short term losses are far beyond what anyone expected. The predictions of this situation were felt a few months ago when the entire company was placed on a hiring freeze. That is, no new employees can be hired no matter the losses. This is a pretty standard thing in big business when it looks like FYE goals are going to come up short. It happens every few years - especially when new hardware is launched... so there wasn't too much cause for concern.

But today was a massacre. SCE has laid off an undisclosed number of employees world wide. It's been a trickle here and there, but today the axe came down - suddenly, and without any warning. You can be assured a press release will be inbound sometime tomorrow with the usual buzzwords "Downsizing", "Stronger position going forward", etc... but what this means for anyone following the so-called "Console Wars" is that Sony is in seriously deep financial ****. They're a major company, they can take it, and they may yet weather this... but this should come as a staggering blow to consumer confidence. Sony is trying to cut their losses - and should those losses continue - what else might they cut?

This will be my last post as an industry insider.

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It's WORSE than I thought it was.

First, the official news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070607/bs_nm/sony_job_cuts_dc

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/07/sony-announces-ps3-related-job-cuts-in-us-forgets-to-mention/

Sony announces PS3-related job cuts in US -- forgets to mention when or how many

Posted Jun 7th 2007 5:00AM by Thomas Ricker
Filed under: Gaming

It's not like we didn't see it coming or anything what with Sony's game division -- home of the PS3 -- recently posting a $1.91 billion loss for the year. But man, our hearts go out to those whose jobs at Sony Computer Entertainment are now on the chopping block. Thing is, Sony, while announcing plans to cut jobs in the US, is only turning the screw deeper by not providing any details. The move comes as Sony struggles to keep up with Nintendo which again snagged top-honors for the 4th consecutive month in the US market: 360,000 Wiis sold to the PS3's 82,000 while Microsoft sold 174,000 Xbox 360s. The gap between the Wii and PS3 sales in Japan is just as bad, if not worse. Fortunately for Sony, their Bravia LCD TVs, VAIO computers, and Handycams are all doing well enough to (mostly) offset the PS3 related losses. We'll have to wait and see if Sony's summer game catalog, bigger disks, and possible price cuts can reverse SCE's fortunes.

---------------------------------------------+++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------------------------------

Next, the PS3 insider known as "Sony Prophet" on the PS3forums talking about the job cuts a DAY before the official pres release today!

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=76759

Sony is in seriously deep ****.

You all know me as a fairly obvious Sony loyalist - and I still love my PS3. Damn thing's fun, even if the pickings are slim. My PSP goes everywhere I go. I love it. I say this because I don't want you to think this is fanboy rhetoric. I just want you to know what's going on.

Anyway, here's the situation...

PS3 hasn't been selling so hot. It's a fact that no one can reasonably contest. The system is sold at a monumental loss (several hundred dollars each, in fact) with the plan to make up the difference in software sales and royalties. Looking at the current situation (just go visit a Gamestop and check out the PS3 section), you can see the trouble with that in the short term.

Now one might say the long term plan is sound. Lose lots of money now, make it up later. Well there's another problem - many of the really huge 2007 titles are now 2008 titles. Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid, etc - and many of the killer-app exclusives (Assassins Creed, Devil May Cry) are no longer exclusives. You can say Sony planned for that too. The best titles for any system, after all, are the first party titles. God of War 2 is one of SCEs biggest successes... and while games like Ratchet and LAIR have their own online followings, they are nevertheless niche titles... not GTA/GoW/Halo level blockbusters. Even Uncharted, which is amazing btw, is slipping under the radar.

Ok, now that you know all that... how are the short term losses looking now? Well, they're bloody astronomical. The short term losses are far beyond what anyone expected. The predictions of this situation were felt a few months ago when the entire company was placed on a hiring freeze. That is, no new employees can be hired no matter the losses. This is a pretty standard thing in big business when it looks like FYE goals are going to come up short. It happens every few years - especially when new hardware is launched... so there wasn't too much cause for concern.

But today was a massacre. SCE has laid off an undisclosed number of employees world wide. It's been a trickle here and there, but today the axe came down - suddenly, and without any warning. You can be assured a press release will be inbound sometime tomorrow with the usual buzzwords "Downsizing", "Stronger position going forward", etc... but what this means for anyone following the so-called "Console Wars" is that Sony is in seriously deep financial ****. They're a major company, they can take it, and they may yet weather this... but this should come as a staggering blow to consumer confidence. Sony is trying to cut their losses - and should those losses continue - what else might they cut?

This will be my last post as an industry insider.

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OH MY GOD. It's WORSE than I thought it was! :o