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#1 Sands-0f-Time
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="Sands-0f-Time"]is a cell like exclusive to sony like is microsoft allowed to use it next gen?

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I think they have to pay royalties. I'm not sure. It's not exclusive I know that, because lots of other things like servers and super computers use a cell variant.

Why would microsoft use the Cell in their console? They usually go custom processor (custom Intel processor for Xbox/ Custom Hyper threading Tri-Core processor in 360) I doubt Sony will even use the Cell next gen.

why not?....devs are getting used to working with the cell. the price for making it is goign down. the ps4 would prob have 2 cells like zero said. crysis graphics for next gen confimred in other words lol

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#2 Sands-0f-Time
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[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

I know, read the end of my post. The same happened with the cell, does anyone think it is as powerful as the hype said it was supposed to be, no.

zero_snake99

The proof is in the games. I think the PS3 has proven time and time again to be the better console through exclusives like Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank:FT, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank: CiT, Heavy Rain and GT5.

Now once the 360 can produce something as good as Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2, than maybe we can talk. But with developers who talk of highly of their Jackets or how many Leaves a tree has, I don't think that's happening anytime soon.

It does show in its games. Though the we would be seeing much better games (graphically) for the PS3 if a few things didn't hold back the architecture. The RSX is almost supbar in terms of current graphics cards. Something with a little more umph would have made a big difference. Also, with the Cell, they don't have a dual threaded architecture, which adds a huge load onto data latency. Next gen I think PS4 would end up having a dual Cell architecture with a decent GPU. Having 2 cells (with dual threading) will allow SOOOO MUCH more stuff. Cells are already getting cheaper to make and devs are getting to work with it, so it wont be as costly as it was this gen. Anyway, with the architecture I though of they could easily Half the 2 CBEs (newer version of course) be dedicated to their own processes. 1 Cell would help the GPU and would be able to offload physics, AI, and other basic procs over to one of the cells, while the other takes the graphical load of the GPU and allows the GPU to have a very powerful frame buffer. Eh, I'll just stop, i'm getting ahead of myself

is a cell like exclusive to sony like is microsoft allowed to use it next gen?

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#3 Sands-0f-Time
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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

That is a completely impractical chart. Considering the Xenos has a unified architecture, most of those processes don't even make it half way considering it shares so much. I've seen it before and all it does is make it seem like the 360 GPU is more powerful by far, when in fact, it isn't.

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I know, read the end of my post. The same happened with the cell, does anyone think it is as powerful as the hype said it was supposed to be, no.

The proof is in the games. I think the PS3 has proven time and time again to be the better console through exclusives like Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank:FT, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank: CiT, Heavy Rain and GT5.

Now once the 360 can produce something as good as Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2, than maybe we can talk. But with developers who talk of highly of their Jackets or how many Leaves a tree has, I don't think that's happening anytime soon.

"bu but look at teh jacket:shock:" lol and the fable 2 dev really failed about the number of leaves on trees lolz......uncharted 2 on the other hand is said to have the most realistic, beutifull snow. but i can trust naughty dog;)

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well that just stinks!!...i hate hooking up my ps2 everytime i want to play some random game on it.

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#5 Sands-0f-Time
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/thread....forza screenshots are old news man....all eyes are on GT5 now

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#6 Sands-0f-Time
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Activision will now have to learn the hard lesson that other devs before them had; Never, EVER piss off the PC gaming fanbase. Not only do they have the ability to pirate your game to hell and back, but the fanbase is also comprised of many members that could make your life very miserable. I'm talking viruses, DoS attacks, hackings, etc. etc.

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oh ya...bust out the gunss...thers goignt o be some serious high tec warfare goin on

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#7 Sands-0f-Time
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isnt 59.99 the normal price on consoles tho? if we have to suffer you have to suffer to...

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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

I know, read the end of my post. The same happened with the cell, does anyone think it is as powerful as the hype said it was supposed to be, no.

zero_snake99

All hardware specs are theoretical. The Xenos theoretical specs are completely different than the Cells. The CBE only has one test figure. The Xenos on the other hand, you can see, it repeats several things but using a different # of piplelines for each. To get an "accurate" theoretical peak for this, you have to be able to test out only the max of the pipelines, each being used for different processes at the same time. It's hard to explain, I hope you get what I mean cuz I don't think I can make a diagram for this one.

that is some serious rocket science bro lol

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#9 Sands-0f-Time
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[QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yup, looks like Prologue but with a few things touched up. Seems about on par with FM3.

rolo107

It looks significantly better than FM3.

Significantly? It's way too close to call a winner at all. But whatever, no one cares if you are a fanboy.

significantly no...but it is slighty better. the lighting in GT5 gives it the wining edge.....the envirnment in GT5 like buildings look really good. now all we got to see is a city circuite race with forza 3 or a mountain/wild or w.e race from GT5 so it can be compared about who has better looking envirnments

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#10 Sands-0f-Time
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i know yesterday was EA conference and Sony conference. i missed todays. i know i was M$ but what els?