Abishot, Halo 3 had crappy graphics so, a bad example? btw MGS4 has to be the greatest game ever made... you should play it some time, altho it's more like watching a great movie where you get to play once in a while... Please don't say that the ps3 looks "fat", because when we're talking about design, the ps3 pwns the 360 like W00t!!? I wanna vomit when I look at the 360, which is one of the main reasons I bought the ps3. I just wouldn't want to have that thing in my living room...