On the models, I agree they need to be redone. There should not be recycled content in here. On new stuff, there's a new class, new regions to explore, new talents, a new trade which allows you to modify your spells and abilities to better suit your particular playing style, new fluff to absorb... On WAR, I played DAoC for several years and don't trust Mythic to put out a quality product. I'm hearing the same stuff from beta testers about weak PvE (save the public quests), laggy PvP/RvR, too many classes in general, with few classes being fleshed out and balanced, and the graphics still suck. The screen shots look like they're from a game made 6+ years ago. It looks like the same engine from DAoC, which came out in 2001. While I think a lot of WoW's armor models/skins look rediculous (especially helms and shoulders), I like how vidid everything is. I don't mind WAR's gloomier color palate, it's part of the fluff, but it's just a bland color palate too.