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#2 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

Eww?

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It beats having Demon's Soul, which is automatically disqualified because it's a JRPG with western themes. A game with anime influences developed by a western company would be a WRPG. From the list, I wouldn't comment on Dragon Age yet, my computer is down and I'm waiting until the holidays to play the game. So far, the Witcher and Neverwinter Nights 2 gets the nod.

Thats flawed logic. Thats just like if someone were to make a western movie in texas, and they were from india, then you are basically saying that it would be an indian western movie, which would not be the case.

But Westerns are tied to a setting and a style.. Western RPGs can be sci-fi of any sort, a variety of fantasy types... WRPG, to my mind, pretty much means "an RPG made in the west." It's usually associated with a style, but that doesn't seem the hard and fast rule. Westerns, on the other hand, are set in the wild west of North America, tied to a particular period - not to where it's made.

Besides, "JRPG" is the term WRPG is opposed to, and that's "Japense RPG" - obviously meant to be tied to Japan. Why wouldn't western RPGs be similarly tied to the west?

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#3 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]No Fable?treedoor

Eww?

I wouldn't have voted for it, but it's *obviously* something that should be on this list. Right now The Witcher gets my vote :p Kind of sad, since I consider it a good rather than great RPG. Oh, and there's no Witcher on that list either :p PS - Mass Effect RPG of the gen!!!
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No Fable?
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] one of the best devs in the world? link please? Iam not saying they aren't good but calling them one of the best idk.. Not saying just because 360 is easy to develop for is a bad thing, but bashing the ps3 because you can't handle it for one of the best devs in the world as you claim them to be doesn't seem so. The best of the best can do anything they set there mind too...apparently valve doesn't fit that bill. Not because they don't want to its because they can't.. ;3

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I guess Blizzard's not among the "best of the best" because they only make PC games these days? And Kojima Productions because they seemed unwilling/unable to port MGS4? Or Nintendo, because they've never even attempted to make something on a non-Nintendo platform? :lol: What do you want me to link, here? Valve having several of the top-reviewed games of all time, having other hugely popular and entertaining releases? Having at least two games that are widely considered classics of the gaming industry under their belt in Half-Life and Team Fortress? They're one of those devs who has multiple games under their belt that a lot of people count as their games of the generation for the past three generations. And if you want to link, just look up their games on Gamerankings... Notice Orange Box in the top 10 there - twice? What exactly does it take to make them a world class dev for you? They've made classics, they make very popular games, they make highly reviewed games, they make games that sell... Is your criteria for them not being one of the cornerstone devs in the industry that they aren't porting their game to the PS3?

You clearly missed any of if not all the points that was made..not only that but bringing other devs into the conversation when trying to back up your own argument, we aint talking about blizz this is Vavle... Not only that but it doesn't seem like you are comprehending anything I say other then vavle is one of the best!.. I guess this is system wars after all. ;3

Irony, again, seeing as your response here deals with *nothing whatsoever* I've said here and merely focuses on attacking my character. Please, don't respond if you're not going to actually respond to my post and just pull the old "LOLZORS YUR JUST A SILLY SYSTEM WARRIOR DUN GET WAT IM SAYING SINCE YU NUT COMPREEHEND ANYTHING I SAY I RESPOND TO NOTHING YOU SAY!" type thing. Or, be so kind as to explain all of the points I miss, In my eyes, I hit your post dead on.
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Basically. It bothers me that they do that yet are praised as if they are the greatest gaming company in the world who regularly saves children from burning buildings.

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So is porting to all platforms a requirement for being an incredible developer now? If so, somebody better give Nintendo a call and tell them a stable of classics and industry shapers doesn't cut it any more - if they ain't devving for the PS3, they are teh suxxorz :o Oh, and better warn Kojima too - the Cows might turn on him if he doesn't port MGS4 to the 360 and PC, since he couldn't be a praised developer if he can't do that..

No, but when a developer refuses to work on certain platforms (I wouldn't count Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft considering they primarily make consoles so obviously wouldn't make products on a competitors console) and constantly hurls insults at a certain console, I don't think you can call them some unique butterfly that cares about gamers.

And Kojima is a hack.

"Unique butterfly that cares about gamers"? What the heck does that have to do with being a spectacular dev? Nintendo was an absolute arsehat of a company using all sorts of bully tactics, witholding vital tech from other devs so their games were the best, during the NES and SNES gens, but they were still among the best devs, and maybe even the very best dev. Being nice, genuinely caring about the gamers rather than a buck, etc etc, hasn't *ever* been a key component in being a legendary game company. And what's more, Valve has been one of the most community oriented devs to ever grace gaming... Just look at their history in modding if you want proof of that. As for them "hurling insults"... Why is saying that one platform's online community is better than another hurling an insult? As I've stated in another thread, does no-one even consider the possibility that it might be true?...
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#7 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

Valve is just trying to DC the fact that they don't want to develop for anything other than the PC format and don't want to work on anything that doesn't involve their precious source engine since that'd be too much work.

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Basically. It bothers me that they do that yet are praised as if they are the greatest gaming company in the world who regularly saves children from burning buildings.

So is porting to all platforms a requirement for being an incredible developer now? If so, somebody better give Nintendo a call and tell them a stable of classics and industry shapers doesn't cut it any more - if they ain't devving for the PS3, they are teh suxxorz :o Oh, and better warn Kojima too - the Cows might turn on him if he doesn't port MGS4 to the 360 and PC, since he couldn't be a praised developer if he can't do that..
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Santesyu"] Who claimed that they are even one of the top devs? Those are in your eyes my fried not mine. And of course iam saying they don't have any cred, the only reason why those games are on the 360 is because its easy to develop for. Santesyu

Kojima productions is a mediocre dev at best in my eyes, but I have to recognize that they're one of the top devs in the terms of the critical community, publishers looking to make a buck, and the gamers who buy games. The industry (publishers, critics, other devs) recognizes Valve to be one of the top devs in the world, as do a great, great many gamers, and whether they're your cup of tea or not doesn't even come close to changing that. And... Yeah? Are you saying "it's easy to develop for" as if it's a bad thing? Isn't the PS3 being tougher to dev for common knowledge?

one of the best devs in the world? link please? Iam not saying they aren't good but calling them one of the best idk.. Not saying just because 360 is easy to develop for is a bad thing, but bashing the ps3 because you can't handle it for one of the best devs in the world as you claim them to be doesn't seem so. The best of the best can do anything they set there mind too...apparently valve doesn't fit that bill. Not because they don't want to its because they can't.. ;3

I guess Blizzard's not among the "best of the best" because they only make PC games these days? And Kojima Productions because they seemed unwilling/unable to port MGS4? Or Nintendo, because they've never even attempted to make something on a non-Nintendo platform? :lol: What do you want me to link, here? Valve having several of the top-reviewed games of all time, having other hugely popular and entertaining releases? Having at least two games that are widely considered classics of the gaming industry under their belt in Half-Life and Team Fortress? They're one of those devs who has multiple games under their belt that a lot of people count as their games of the generation for the past three generations. And if you want to link, just look up their games on Gamerankings... Notice Orange Box in the top 10 there - twice? What exactly does it take to make them a world class dev for you? They've made classics, they make very popular games, they make highly reviewed games, they make games that sell... Is your criteria for them not being one of the cornerstone devs in the industry that they aren't porting their game to the PS3?
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#9 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

SW will kill you because the lack of Blazblue.

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Haha,i'm gulity gear fan too XD

Tekken 6 ofcorse, for me it's best fighting game series ever made.

Tekken 6 doesn't seem like the best in the series though. Third, I'd say.
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I'm quite enjoying Tekken 6 so far, but SF at this point. Maybe in a month or two I'll be able to say more about Tekken... DoA is a virtual party game - very good for that, but, not quite the same.. And SC is pretty meh. Smash is also a hoot, but it isn't drawing me in like the previous games in the serious.