You listed a lot of good games, but no great ones. None of the games you listed were all that memorable and a few of them were VERY obscure. Most of them were shooters and two of them were games that the PS3 will get the next edition of.

Great games change the way developers make games. GTA 3 was a great game. Years ago Madden was a great game. NOTHING on your list is even close to great. There have been no great games this generation (maybe Wii Sports if you count the Wii as this generation).

Most of the "critical consensus" is that most of the top 10 games coming out this year that have the potential for greatness are being released on the PS3 (at least 4 of them are EXCLUSIVE to the PS3).

If you are using the list you gave as a yard stick. Then yeah, the PS3 will have as many or more great games as the 360.

Saints Row? Call of Duty 2? Halo? They were good, but certainly not great.

best softwere attach rate its the system all the gamers buy there games for,

the ps3 is for the weirdo kid that stays at the end of the block,up a dark path and doesnt come out at all

he sits and looks at a MGS 4 screenshot all day in the dark!

while the 360 kid has all his friends round playing amazing games like GOW, HALO ,and madden in SPLITSCREEN
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I agree that Xbox 360 is the standard by which other consoles are compared, but the suggestion that the other consoles are inferior is silly.

The 360 is like Jan Brady. Not as cute and fun as Cindy (the Wii) or as sexy and well built as Marsha (the PS3). Just somewhere in the middle trying to fit in.

I often read that competition is good for customers and monopolies is bad. but is it really for us gamers ?

When it comes to games, sure it's a good thing. developers trying to make their game the best of its genre to get good sales can only be a good thing for us.

But when it comes to gaming systems, i think in the end competition is a bad thing for us.

If there was only 1 console this gen, be it ps3 or 360 (Not counting WII, it doesn't target the same customers), the games wouldn't be any less good, probably would be even better as they all would be optimized for that console, no more multi-plat and bad ports. We would just need to buy one console to have access to every games, no need to make a choice between xbox games or ps3 games and miss out on the other console's games, they would all be on the same console.

Well, of course we can just buy both consoles and have access to all games, but not everyone can afford it and the fact that we can doesn't make it a good deal just to have access to a few exclusives that could run on both consoles.

ps : Sorry if my english isn't all that good, it isn't my native language.

Tykain

Your first error in logic is that you excluded the Wii. The Wii is a direct result of competition in the prior generationS. Nintendo as a corporate entity decided that they could not compete in the environment as it was; they decided they would would have to change direction. Motion sensitivity was a result of competition.

Games like Halo, MGS4, GTA4, all of the various sports franchises etc. haven't really benefited greatly from the console wars, but when you think of the ground breaking things on the horizon (e.g., Home, Little Big Planet) if there were no competition these things wouldn't exist.

The quest for the next great thing drives developers to push the envelope of what technology can do. On the flip side, the quest to take advantage the next great thing pushes technology to make the most of what it can do.

There are games in development for the PS3 that can't be done on the 360. There are games on the 360 that can't be done on the Wii. If there were only one console, who's to say that one console wouldn't be the Wii, (or the PS2 for that matter). The drive to be the console everyone wants to develop for pushes what can be done.

1. The console wars will probably have a loser this gen. The GC and Xbox lost last gen and unless the eventual marketshare will be something like 40-30-30 or 33-33-33 there will be a loser. Actually, the 33-33-33 could already be considered a loss for Sony, considering they held about 60% of the market last gen.

2. The fact that the PS3 has a Blu-ray player indeed means it wins something. But the real winner in this situation is the BDA. The PS3 wont be the only Blu-ray player on the market, and it wont be the cheapest one either. Oh and digital distribution for movies is something that a lot of people really dislike. Most people just want to have the movie at home. A movie they can take to a friends house.

3. Power is something that isnt all that important. It obviously has a lot of benefits. But if there's one thing that 2007 taught us, its power =/= everything. Super Mario Galaxy was the highest rated game of 2007 and possibly the game with the most GOTY awards. And its obvious that it wasnt because it made use of the latest shader technology.

Can-o-Mark

1. It depends on how you define lost. Mattel lost, Atari lost. Sega lost. All of the customers lost because they bought a system that didn't survive to give them their money's worth. The companies lost because they had to change direction or leave the market entirely. That's how you loose. Market share means squat. Nintendo was third in market share last generation, but it made more money off of consoles than Sony did. Hardly a loss.

2. To the contrary. I am saying that the BDA LOST TOO!!! They will ultimately not last long enough for people to view the players worth investment. The drives won't be in production very long as stand alone players and will ultimately be forced to become something of a Internet/Hard Drive/Blu Ray Hybrid to be sellable to consumers.

3. I'm not arguing that today's games with today's technology aren't fun and can't be appealling (even the best of the year). I am saying that despite the appeal of motion sensitivity the next EVOLUTION in gaming won't be on the Wii (or the Xbox 360 for that matter) merely because the people looking to make that evolutionary jump will likely opt for the more powerful system.

Funny thing. Sony seems to be downplaying the other features of the PS3.

Everyone keeps saying this game is nothing like LBP. I don't understand how they are different. Yes, the blocks seem to be a distinct limitation, but outside of that, the games seem like carbon copies of one another.

Someone also mention the 3D aspect, which seems to be missing from LBP, but seems to exist here.

BTW why are we calling this a Wii answer? Is this game exclusive for Wii. EA isn't real big on exclusives.

For all the mismanagement Sony engaged in with the PS3, I believe history will be quite kind to the PS3.

Here's why:

1) The Console wars won't have a "loser".

The PS3 was clearly in a position to be the only console in danger of not surviving this round of consoles. However, with the system now turning a profit on each new unit sold, AND the number of unique games in 2008 make sure the console will be around for a while.

2) The format wars are over, and the winner is not Blu Ray, but the PS3.

Sony made a genius move including a blu ray player in every PS3. Not because Blu Ray is the wave of the future, but because the PS3 does what no other High Definition (Blu Ray or HD DVD) player does. It connects to the internet wirelessly and can save to a hard drive. The PS store WILL become Sony's launch pad for high definition movie downloads. You plug a DVD upscaler, a blu ray player, an upgradable hard drive and a wireless connection into the same device and sneak them into 10+ million households and you have a serious avenue for pushing content. It helps that blu ray won, but every PS3 owner will feel like a genius when they download thier first high definition movie and realize how smart the purchase turned out to be. Sony doesn't care if blu ray ultimately has a shelf life of 4 or 5 years, because they have snuck the replacement into the consumers household without the consumer being aware of it.

3) The next big game is coming.

Every console is going to have fun games. They will all have kick butt exclusives, and they will all have thier moments to shine. However, the developers are eventually going to want to push the envelope. Sooner or later someone is going to want to take things to the next level, and when they do they are going to look at the consoles out there and make a conscious decision to use the PS3. Why? Power!!! The next big game is coming, and it is going to be a power hog! It always is. It's going to utilize every drop of power the developers can find and before the first line of code is written the Wii and Xbox360 will already be out of consideration.

This generation of consoles has already proven to be the most competitive and the most successful to date. All three systems will do quite well, and the consumers will ultimately be the winner. That said, the PS3 will have the longest lifespan, and will be the console on which the next generation of consoles will be patterned (the whole home entertainment hub thing).

Mark my words, the PS3 will reach a higher level of saturation than even the PS2. If you are reading this you will own a PS3 by 2010

Some of you are focussing too much on what happens when people get tired OF the Wiimote.

Think about what is going to happen when people get tired FROM the Wiimote. Will the Wii join your ab rollerin the corner of the basement?

I see that the Wiimote is likely the first iteration of the controller of the future, but right now having a novel controller coupled with an underpowered system is a far cry from virtual reality especially when you are the only system WITHOUT HD graphics in this the HD age. An idea before it's time.

The good news for Nintendo is that they will make their R & D money back quickly. The bad news is ours because the Wii won't last 5 years before it is updated to the Wiii. My guess is that it won't take quite that long

I posted information about this phenomenon before, but I will again. So here goes...

I reviewed the last 100 voluntary reviews for each of the "next generation" consoles on cnet. I looked for:

1) How many negative ratings (5 or less out of 10) each system got.

2) How many of the voluntary reporters claimed that their system broke.

I found:

Xbox360: 18% gave a negative rating, and 21% reported their console had to be repaired.

Playstation 3: 17% gave negative rating, and 2% reported their console had to be repaired.

Wii: 8% gave negative rating, and 1% reported their console had to be repaired.

I rechecked again today 6 of the most recent 20 reveiws are still reporting breakage of the Xbox360. None of the most recent 20 for the other two systems.

The defect rate is somewhere around 15-20%, and is clearly and significantly higher than for the other two systems. So it shouldn't surprise anyone when they get the ring of death.

A gimmick is something that is catchy initially, but has no lasting appeal.

Blu-Ray might be the next movie format. Also, developers are likely to use every bit of the additional space once they start pushing the envelope.

Motion sensitivity (sixaxis and Wiimote style) is NOT the wave of the future!!! It clearly will loose its appeal quickly.