[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="SlaYeR4You"][QUOTE="rawsavon"]EASY: Rocky Marciano...the only champ to retire undefeated 49-0...no one ever beat him in a professional fight...game over Stats don't make GOATs, Rocky Marciano fought wimps and retired with only 49 fight under his belt because he was scarred of losing, Ali fought in the golden era of boxing and dominated (defeating great fighters like Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Chuvalo, Liston)...it's a tough call between Ali and Joe Louis but definitely not Marciano I hate this argument... People say: Jim Brown is not the best RB ever because he did not play against the best (today's athletes) Wilt Chamberlain was not the best ever because he did not play against the best (MJ, Magic, etc.) Blah, Blah, Blah 1. You can only play against/fight who is available during your era 2. Of course the further along in history, the "better" the players/fighters are -they are bigger, faster, stronger, train longer, eat better, and take better care of their bodies than they did 10/25/50/100 years ago. -Back in the day players/fighters had "real" jobs, in addition to playing sports. 3. But if the older fighters/players were alive today, they would have all the advantages of today's athletes...they would still dominate. 4. You honestly think a fighter that went 49-0 retired because he was afraid...really...that is you argument. 5. He was the only great to retire and stay retired...he beat everyone of his day...knew when his time was over...and retired...that takes real courage. 6. Ali lost fights before, during, after his prime. -He did not even dominate everyone in his own era. 7. You are playing the "what if" game...what if Rocky had the same opponents as Ali...what if Tyson never goes to jail...what if Roy Jones Jr. doesn't get disqualified for his first loss and keeps his undefeated streak alive...what if, what if, what if -Base it on Stats...Rocky was the best ever of his particular era...He dominated his era like no one ever has...case closed First i'm not saying that Marciano is not the best because he didn't fight against Ali or Tyson, he didn't fight nobody good except Joe Louis ( even he wasn't good then, he was 38 years old ) he retired with only 49 fights under his belt which is not much, second Ali never lost during his prime, his first loss came after 3 and half years outside the ring, thirdly no boxing critic, commentator or columnist ever named Marciano (nor Tyson) to be the greatest....they know better
I can draw a South Korea map out of memory or a Somalia map, what's the big deal i can pretty much draw a map of US and i don't even live there, are politicians so dumb that they get praised for this? LoL
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