[QUOTE="SpaceSword"][QUOTE="mariostar0001"]Than he can go with a bayonet, those were still fairly common in said time period. He could also go alone, but while he's taken on gun-wielding foes before, I'm sure human soldiers would pose more of an obstacle then G.U.N. robots.mariostar0001

[QUOTE="SuperfastSonic"]They also disliked Sonic Colors for having too many cut scenes or something like that.sonictrainer

Yet, there are people who want his games to have to good stories.

No matter what SEGA does, someone's going to be happy and someone's going to complain.

Than he can go with a bayonet, those were still fairly common in said time period. He could also go alone, but while he's taken on gun-wielding foes before, I'm sure human soldiers would pose more of an obstacle then G.U.N. robots.mariostar0001

[QUOTE="kbaily"][QUOTE="SpaceSword"][QUOTE="kbaily"]

[QUOTE="PyreofKoL"][QUOTE="chocolate1325"]There are some Sonic games that were destined to suck from the beginning like Black Knight.chocolate1325

I bought it from the GS bargain bin for like $9 or something and even if you sort of liked it, the entire game really has the air of something Sega just rushed out to make a few bucks on fans. Their misconception came from the surprsingly good sales of Secret Rings that sold well namely because audiences were happy to see the first "Sonic only" game in many many years as wel as it showed mostly gimmick free gameplay. Just Sonic running fast. And Sega instead of getting the idea that "hey people want to play a Sonic game with just Sonic running fast" they said "Hey they love the story idea, let's toss Sonic in Camelot and give him a sword because people don't react as violently to swords as they do guns."

But Black Knight represents the end of an era of the "Sonic fan game" really it felt like something the Shadow fans would've made as a bad fan fiction. It's only four hours long, you trade one set of waggly controls for another and they even put a fan art gallery in the game." But at most, it's only four hours long and once I finished it, I had no reason to want to play it again. Colors was only five hours but it felt more rewarding at the end of the day.

But it's bomb in sales was the best thing that could happen. It was the nail in the coffin for "story" driven, friend heavy, cock rocky, weapon based Sonic games. After that Sega got back to focusing on gameplay and giving the mainstream audiences what they want.

Still just because something is geared at kids is not an excuse to not try. And Sega was coasting too long on that excuse for the poor quality of those games. I call it the "George Lucas Excuse" aka the excuse George Lucas uses when people say how much the Star Wars prequels and Jar Jar suck. He says "well kids like it."

Sonic the Hedgehog: Modern Warfare, because kids love FPS :P

Instead of a third story book game, Sega could just give us a refund for Black Knight :D

[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"][QUOTE="smashking777"]

[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]I don't mind Mario, I just don't like anything beyond Sunshine. Mario is doing what Pokemon did after it started going to other regions, which was alienate me. Mario 64 was like Pokemon Gold and Silver. Greatest game ever in the franchise.mariostar0001

I diagree Super Mario Galaxy 2 was a godsend and the camera in 64 was a little broken to me

I hated Super Mario Galaxy 2. It was NOTHING like 64.

"Froggy! Where are you Froggy?" -Big the Cat

[QUOTE="SpaceSword"]If anything I think the Game Gear Games (Sonic Chaos, Sonic triple trouble) deserve to be more reconized. There not bad, and I usually play them if I feel like playing old school Sonic. Actually, does anyone remember Tails Adventures?? Yeah that game was awful.kbaily

Personally I liked Tails' Adventure, if anything it was one of the more admirable attempts to do something different and do a spinoff with a more Metroid/Zelda type of exploratory gameplay. At least it didn't get beat over with the angsty stick. (*coughShadowcough*)

[QUOTE="PyreofKoL"][QUOTE="chocolate1325"]There are some Sonic games that were destined to suck from the beginning like Black Knight.kbaily

I bought it from the GS bargain bin for like $9 or something and even if you sort of liked it, the entire game really has the air of something Sega just rushed out to make a few bucks on fans. Their misconception came from the surprsingly good sales of Secret Rings that sold well namely because audiences were happy to see the first "Sonic only" game in many many years as wel as it showed mostly gimmick free gameplay. Just Sonic running fast. And Sega instead of getting the idea that "hey people want to play a Sonic game with just Sonic running fast" they said "Hey they love the story idea, let's toss Sonic in Camelot and give him a sword because people don't react as violently to swords as they do guns."

But Black Knight represents the end of an era of the "Sonic fan game" really it felt like something the Shadow fans would've made as a bad fan fiction. It's only four hours long, you trade one set of waggly controls for another and they even put a fan art gallery in the game." But at most, it's only four hours long and once I finished it, I had no reason to want to play it again. Colors was only five hours but it felt more rewarding at the end of the day.

But it's bomb in sales was the best thing that could happen. It was the nail in the coffin for "story" driven, friend heavy, cock rocky, weapon based Sonic games. After that Sega got back to focusing on gameplay and giving the mainstream audiences what they want.