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#1 Sunskynet
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Excactly! A lot of game had lost its ambiance when it passed in 3d, worms/contra/final fight/castlevania/tetris/oddworld ... and other big franchise are a excellent conversion in 3d but i prefere the 2d version : Mario64 Vs Super Yoshi Island / Mario Kart VS Mario Kart 64 / Donkey Kong 64 Vs Donkey Kong Country.. etc etc

They are again a lot of possibility to do extraordinary things in 2d system, when the 3d arrived in the video game market, the developpers are to excited to explore this way and they completely rejected 2d (who became beautiful and complexe) for the new 3d not very beautiful (texture,aliasing..) in the new ps1..

Imagine few seconde, a new Zelda ALLTP 2d (2d like the better graphic of atomiswave or like the Zelda 2d in Gamecube) in the next Nintendo System who we can play online at 8 in cooperation for example, and we are in a very big donjon with enigme and we can arrived fast to the boss.. rhaaaaa

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#2 Sunskynet
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20987.html

Good video! i persist, the 3d are not the solution, it's become to expensive with the new platform (not the wii but the other) and it's begin to be often the same thing, the same but. (a lot of fps with no originality for example, but it rest few exception like bioshock

My dream ? : a new street of rage 2d, with graphisme like Street fighter III 3rd impact for exemple, and playable at five and online.. the must!

I think that it's possible, and i hope that Nintendo or another company take this risk! If i remember they already have 5 million of downloading in Virtual console! It's unbeliveable, and all of there are old game! A good market i say you! It's possible!

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#3 Sunskynet
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For the moment i download Symphony of the night in PS Store US. :D

I :love: this game! rhaaaa thx konami!

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#4 Sunskynet
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Yes you're right Pink Floyd, they are many people that tecnologic count more that ambiance or gameplay. It's often the most young gamers, who become videogame with the first playstation.
But how many guy become videogame with 2d system (CPC/atari/master sytem/nes..), and today they play again and again. They are milion (like me and you) and i think that they represent a perfect target to a new System 2d, even if 2d is e little more restricted like 3d, the 2d can offers a magnific experience again and again.

For me they are a lot of way to experiment in 2d. Look the DS for exemple, the way to play is experimental and new for a many games, but 3/4 of the Ds game are 2d game, and there are exceptionnel.

So we can have an very good 2d game (rpg/aventure/sport), but we can have also an experimental or new 2d game(Ds game/few saturn game also).

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#5 Sunskynet
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Sure.. i know that you're right but you say that even if that not market for 2d game, you're are the first who would like an 2d console. So even if you are very very pessimist about 2d market and that for YOU the 3d give more diferent style of game, you buy this consol if one day it's become a reality.

In fact, that guys who are too dreamer like me, i know that im too optimist lol .. it's right..

But i know that a lot of old gamers buy this kind of console, and other guy like YOU, that think the 2d market are dead but finally you're like me => you buy it, so we are the same kind of gamers.

It's hard to explain in english, sorry for my bad english

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#6 Sunskynet
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Ok you're right fot the Saturn, but in this time, the 3d was very new! I remember i was so young and so impressive to see ridge race or tekken in the new Playstation!
But today, after twelves years, things are changed => the 3d begin to be obsolete and repetitive.

The cost of development of the platform X360/Ps3 are extremly expensive, i would like to know what happened for the next generation with this 2 constructor, because the run of the technologic is not the solution, there managed to try a solution for the little studio for example.

The 2d return would be the solution.
I take more pleasure to play a 2d rpg/aventure/sport or combat, to play at 3d game of the same game. And i'm not one exception!

All the olg gamers, all the nostalgik gamer, or even the retrogamer and the poeple who play emulation are a market that they can exploited.

The succes of the retrogaming of the wii are an example.

For exemple An Street fighter 3rd impact is like technical that an Soulcalibur , and personaly i prefere to fight in this first game.

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#7 Sunskynet
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Hi! I'm speak not very well in english, so sorry for my faults .. :oops:

Well : I ask you if it's possible for one of the actual leader of the videogame market (Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony) to take a lot (very lot) of risk ?

==> Example : Nintendo for his wii, as take a risk.. and for the moment this risk paid a lot for him!

So =>> Do you think that it's possible -for the next generation- to have a powerfull 2D (and only that) console ?

Ok the casual gamers and young gamers will not be interressed by it, but how many old gamers began with a nes/master system/2d system, and regret this time when the imaginary was more important that technology ? A million i'm sure! ;)

So : Imagine a powerful console 2d (more powerful that atomiswave for exemple), with a down cost of development, and imagine this kind of game remasterized or a new game with this king of ambiance :

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/secret+of+mana/video/xcp73_secret-of-mana-intro

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/chrono+trigger/video/xadsx_chrono-trigger-chrono-trigger-chron

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/quackshot/video/x2845d_introduction-quack-shot_music

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/mickey+mouse+megadrive/video/x28imc_the-end-mickey-caslte-of-illusion-f_music

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/ff6/video/x2psz8_ff6-boss-collection_videogames

OK.. I stop; but there are many exemple, for me the 2d are moste impressive and magic that 3d, and like a million of nostalgik gamers, i would like a 2d console because :

1/It's less expansive to develope a game

2/The market will be relanced

3/The 2d is not dead

What do you think about that ? :D