Good luck bro. Ppl on here don't think you can change or have control to do anything. ez_moneymaker

Sony said the reason for needing PS+ for multi-player was to pay for all the new things they added (cross-game chat, video sharing, game streaming via Gaikai). So what if instead they made all those features part of PS+, but kept just regular multi-player free.

Anyway, if anyone is interested a petition was just started: https://www.change.org/petitions/sony-computer-entertainment-don-t-require-playstationplus-for-online-multi-player-on-playstation-4

For people who don't like Sony's new requirements, do you like this idea? And for those who do like needing PS+ to play online, WHY?

[QUOTE="TehSonofUgly"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

The singleplayer for all of those games has been pirated.

The multiplayer hasn't.

peterw007

Yes but you can't run the game on official servers. So you can't get the same experience as someone who bought the game legally.

By "pirated," I mean that you get the same experience as you would if you bought the game...but you got it for free.

[QUOTE="TehSonofUgly"][QUOTE="peterw007"]

The only DRM that actually works 100% is having the game be multiplayer-only.

peterw007

The singleplayer for all of those games has been pirated.

The multiplayer hasn't.

Cause I can't imagine any other way to identify them.

KiZZo1

They just don't get all the content.dreman999

[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"] But the reason why is because they did not put protection on their games and look what happened.....Heir game was pirated to hell and back. CD projet red is a clear an example of why a dev should have some form of protection on their games.peterw007

I haven't seen any kind of DRM protecting a game from pirates, like .. ever.

The only DRM that actually works 100% is having the game be multiplayer-only.

[QUOTE="TehSonofUgly"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Not it did not. If I get a new copy, I still have it.

dreman999

Well my argument then would be you bought it and should be able to let other people play the game.

But then your argument is you didn't actually by the game, you bought a license to play it, and you're right about that.

Then someone says well if I can't really buy the game, why should I pay for it at all, and blah blah blah.

Anyway, before the online passes you had the capability of letting someone borrow your games, now that's not a possibility - which is a feature that was taken away from paying customers when online passes were implemented - to go back to my original point of why people don't like online passes.