Here is my relationship with my PS4....

- Buy a game
- Turn on the console
- It needs to update
- The game needs to update
- I turn it off, buy it on Steam and I'm playing in 5 mins.

Every time I want to play a game I have to wait ages for updates, they're so slow at it too. Even the switch moans at me for updates all the time...

I don't get the hate, I've just had the game spoiled for me as people seem to want to post it in the comments everywhere.... :/ I'm not going to play any more as it has been spoiled, there is no point now.... but I don't get the hate, I just think the story is stupid.

It was only good to console people, I remember playing it and thinking it sucked apart from the AI.

I am but I find the premise stupid.

It seems like it is setting up the story to be based around that cop out of an ending from the first game. Well just because someone is immune doesn't mean they give you a cure, and even these days it'll take many years to find anything at all. Since they're in a wrecked civilisation, I highly doubt they would be able to come up with any thing.

So if the story is going to be based on this.... I find it very stupid.

Not only does it run poorly, but the driving just feels bad, and the drifting is the worst! Mario Kart plays so nice, even that old Sonic Kart racer played nice, but this game has the worst feel ever. Again what is up with the drifting? You jump to drift and it doesn't do it more often then not, it's so finicky, and then it drifts in so much instead of drifting out... just not fun at all.

Probably one of the worst Kart racers I've ever played.

What has the Xbox had this generation? A Laggy mess of an OS with a layout that makes no sense and no exclusives worth a damn.... that is the Xbox One Legacy. Maybe it's because I'm in Europe? But no one owns an Xbox here, and for good reason, because unless you care about Forza... what do they have? Really Gears 4 was boring and Halo 5 was pure crap. That is all you can point to, what have they been doing? Personally I hate Forza, they continue to ignore the big problems they have with the online structure, and the horizon series is so long in the tooth now, yawn, do something new! If I'm going to play an online Sim, I'll play iRacing as it's much better.

Microsoft need exclusives, Sony have constantly innovated this generation, Nintendo are doing what Nintendo do... but I have to say Zelda BoTW changed open world games forever for me.... but Microsoft? Nothing.....

Time for Phil Spencer to go, time for the Microsoft CEO to go, bring back a man with vision, like Steve Balmer! I mean even the Kinect 360 days were better... at least they were doing something new! We all might have laughed at it, but it was fun, and people bought it!

they talk about leavikg

blackwater, so why is it beside where you end up camping? I dont get why you went Into the mountains , just so go down again 50 yards away lol.

I got a PS4 Pro and Spider-Man, I haven’t been able to play however because it takes hours to install from Disc.... So I turn my TV off as it’s OLED and it turns the PS4 off, or I leave it on and the PS4 turns itself off....

It’s been 4 days now and I haven’t been able to play because it keeps resetting the install process.

The console is a pos, I have none of these problems on PC. Firstly it’s fast so anything installs instantly, secondly Steam installs, lets you quit out and then carries on installing from the same place.

If this game doesn’t install this time, I’m taking the console back, I’m not going to sit by my console for 2 hours while waiting for it to install.

How did we go from gaming back in the day to this crap?

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