@xantufrog:
--i was thinking these dont even look like 'deals'
--i can get any of those main games for 20$(and MUCH less) used on ebay(except no mans sky)
--but
--on 'amazons one day sell'(in mid july)
--i got
--a xb1 and controller
--a separate blue controller "dusk shadow"
--a copy of forza 6
--a copy of horizon 2
--and a boxed 'Limited Edition' copy of halo 5(the 2ndary CE)
--and a 50$ amazon card
--for a whopping 248$(that was seriously the FULL charge)
--i also got free 2 day shipping

--370$?(+taxes and shipping)
--for a ps4 with one OLD ass game(except no mans sky)
--"giving it away"?

--far cry primal is 24$ brand new
--bloodborne 15$
--all of those games are around or under 20$ brand new

--of course
--i am not completely familiar with you personally and your brand worship rituals
--i didnt see you as a PS hater
--i may have missed your joke

--"switching consoles can be SUPER disruptive so scorpio is gonna fix that"
--by
--switching consoles...

--i mean
--am i the only one seeing this BS?

@suicidesn0wman:
--ive thought a lot about it
--i have come to this conclusion about scorpio
--it has GOTTA be xbox's VR machine
--that also has room to play current xb1 games(and future ones)
--but that
--also has the power to compete in the VR market

--it also makes sense
--because PS had their own scorpio(Neo) in progress
--which was fairly surprising
--that they announced Neo right after scorpio
--even though none of us new anything about these new consoles

--the only problem xbox faces at the moment
--is they probably want oculus or a larger company like that to get involved with scorpio
--even though they may have something like hololens type of VR/Ar gaming cooking up

--the bottom line is(about scorpio)
--that without something besides the current and next year or 2 worth's of xb1 games
--what in the hell is scorpio for?
--it takes time to make solid AAA titles
--and shit
--i mean
--in reality xb1 JUST came out(from a long term AAA game developer's perspective)

@Daveof89:

"...How is that lunacy?..."

--making a new console
--when the console you have isnt selling half of what the competition is
--and the ONLY thing your new console really does is...
--cost more?
--that "makes sense" to you?
--ha ?o_O

@suicidesn0wman:
"...they would be willing to try any game on any platform just for the opportunity to have some fun..."

--that is not true
--else VR would be taking off like wildfire(vs hardly taking off at all)
--the reason it isnt taking off?
--it is too expensive(and gamers are tight)

--scorpio if it comes out next holiday
--will be at least 600$(probably more like 7-800)
--and on top of that
--there are no games for it

--so
--if no one is buying xb1 now
--which has plenty of games
--why would they buy a 700$ version of an xb1.5(or whatever you wanna call it)
--if it doesnt even have any games that xb1 cant play

--it is crazy talk
--they are saying "Scorpio will be 6 times stronger than xb1
--yet any games that run on scorpio will run on xb1 also?"
--that is straight lunacy

@smokerob79:
--elaborate..
--how does scorpio 'make sense'?
--here is an example of scorpio making ZERO sense
1.ex
--what games are they gonna have to sell with it at launch?
--xb1 came out less than 3 years ago
--it takes years to make top quality AAA games
--so
--werent developers building the xbox games for xb1?
--so
--is xbox gonna stop these developers mid build(or near end of the game build)
--and say
--"wait you are now gonna have 6X the power"
--but
--we dont have the actual console yet
--so
--you are gonna have to COMPLETELY guess on how the console is gonna run games... O_o ?

--who is gonna buy a SUPER expensive console
--that doesnt have any games?

--this game's main issue
--is it just doesnt have 'top notch' mechanics(action)

--why does destiny 'hang around'?
--they used pleasure sensor buttons on beta testers
--ha
--yes
--the same thing they do with lab rats and animals
--when testers were enjoying the mechanics
--they would press pleasure system buttons
--this information was put into computer software
--and the mechanics of destiny are literally as good as a FPS get
--you can say what you want about every other part of destiny
--but the core mechanics are ADDICTIVE as hell

@kazeswen:

"...No more console generations! sounds like Marxism. Great on paper, and rallies the common man, but impossible to execute in real life..."

--i think i love you

--i have got their drift now
--they are gonna try and monopolize the console market like this
--they are gonna try and change it to favor their product(like they did with xb1 pre-launch)
--why?
--to run playstation and nintendo outta the home console business
--kinect1 pretty much put Nintendo outta the home console business

--here is what is gonna happen
--the same thing that has happened over the last 3 years
--gamers arent gonna buy their BS
--hardcore gamers do not fall for gimmicks(i mean VR isnt even a gimmick~but we are staying away from it)
--we have already seen xbox try this with xb1's initial attempts to turn home console gaming into less of a gaming experience
--and into more of an 'all around' digital media experience

--scorpio is a last ditch effort(to save the xbox brand)
--and it is fart brained
--their plans for scorpio are HORRIBLY disjointed
--and incomplete
--and if you really think about the whole thing(the true reality of it)
--it doesnt make ANY sense

--scorpio simply does not make sense
--remember what judge Judy always said
--"if it does not make sense it probably is not true"