Wow, you just blew my mind with your complete lack of anything resembling logic. To try and explain to you how and why America's very being is based on "a peace of paper" would surely be a total waste of time and energy.I always find it odd when Americans complain about stuff being unconstitutional.
If they think it would improve the countries health then its fine, a piece of paper shouldn't influence that decision
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It's not quite that simple. The states have their own constitution and must abide by it. There have been many state laws found to be unconstitutional in the courts. Will the restaurant establishment file suit? We'll see.We live in a Republic where the states still have the power to regulate commerce within their jurisdiction so far as those laws do not conflict with federal law. For instance, many states ban the sale of alcohol on Sunday morning. Is this fair to the companies that make and sell the alcohol product? No, but since the state regulates the sale of alcohol, it is within the state's right to put legal restrictions on the sale of it. In this case, since there is no violation of federal law, the state has the right to enact the ban.
Darthmatt
[QUOTE="ThewaycoolKid"][QUOTE="jman1553"]Seeing as it was the happy meal that really helped to contribute to me becoming really fat as a kid (and still trying to lose the weight now) yeah, I think it should be banned. Those damn toys.... those damn toys are from Hell! If it weren't for them, I'd probably never ask my mom for fast food so much as a kid.Serraph105My God, are you serious? Happy meals contributed to you being a really fat kid? Did the toys in the cereal boxes make you eat the whole box of cereal too? Did that little red bull turn you into an alcoholic as well? Wow, pathetic. You liberals blame everyone but yourselves. he never said he was liberal. He didn't have to.
I understand that people do not want to feel as though their freedom is being encroached upon. However all of those defending the right of companies to market things to children however they please and that parents should be the ones should be the ones to step between kids and their happy meals need to understand an important fact. Their are people working for all these companies who have dedicated their lives to understanding how to manipulate people into buying things that are bad for them, or even things that they don't want.I admire the conservative ideal that individual personal responsibility should trump all, but that has to be counter balanced by the fact that it is unrealistic in today's world to expect that parents have the time, energy, and intellect to provide a healthy diet consistently to their children.quetzalcoatIUnrealistic in today's world? lol. This is pure nonsense. My wife and I have no problem whatsoever raising our kids with good morals and healthy eating habits. Why would it take any more time an energy than when we were growing up? The same junk foods have been around for many decades. Our kids eat right and occasionally (i.e rarely) eat anything considered junk food. Every once in a great while we'll grab a burger or a candy bar etc. It's all about moderation. The occasional happy meal, regardless of the number of calories or fat, is fine and will do no harm. A piece of cake, a couple slices of pizza, an ice cream cone etc every now and then is not the problem. parents should be the ONLY ones deciding what their kids eat. Government should have no roll whatsoever in such decisions. That's what supposed to make this country different from the rest of the world. The world is not a perfect place, it never will be and trying to regulate perfection is a useless cause.
We all know obesity, specifically childhood obesity, has become a major social and medical problem across the world. Their are many reasons for this which probably include peoples overall dissatisfaction with their lives in this society. Without a doubt, however, the availability of cheap unhealthy food is having a huge part in this. So, my question to those who are acting as though San Francisco has taken a piss on George Washington's grave is this: What should be done about it? Should we let the world fall to obesity which will take a huge toll on health care, economies, and peoples overall enjoyment of life in the name of freedom, or should we take small steps like controlling what corporations can market to children, to help make America a healthier place?quetzalcoatIAmerica is not getting fatter, nor are our kids. Did you not see the CNC's very own study I posted a link too? There has been NO change in America's overall weight for the past decade! We are not getting fatter! This is the governments own study. The fact is Americans live longer today than at any other point in history.
You're semi-correct on the states rights, but it's not nearly as point blank as you make it sound. However I'd like to address the issue of weight in America. You've been fed too much government, media and pharmaceutical propaganda. Agenda's abound, honesty is hard to come by. American's live longer today than at any point in our nations history. and are not fatter (see study below). Oh and the rate of obesity in kids have not risen. The whole issue is based on the government issued "one-size-fits all".. NOT) Body mass index (BMI) scale, a measure of body fat based on height and weight. This government "standard" is beyond a joke. It doesn't take into account body type, bone structure, muscle mass, etc. A prime Mike Tyson at 5"11 and 220 lbs is obese, not overweight, but OBESE according to the government. Have you ever seen a prime Mike Tyson? I'm 5"9, 210 lbs, no one.. and I mean no one.. would look at me and think I'm overweight, much less obese as the government rates me. I'm a competitive mountain bike racer and at 40 years old just 5 pounds heavier than my wrestling weight in high school. According to BMI a 6"4, 250 pound man is obese. Tell that to half the NFL quarterbacks! It's nonsensical to put any faith in such a ridiculous "standard" which doesn't apply to tens or hundreds of millions of people with different body types. Don't believe me though.. you can get it straight from the horses mouth. According to the CDC there has been no change in America's weight from 2000 to 2008, the last such study conducted. http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1953206,00.htmlYes, it's constitutional, but...
no, it isn't appropriate, however...
no, I wouldn't lift a finger to protest such a ban;
nor would I lift a finger to enact such a ban.
There are real societal consequences and costs to the obesity epidemic, so society has an interest in dealing with it. I do not approve of this particular regulation, which I believe to be missing the plot, but Government not only has the right, it has the clear responsibility to regulate commerce, even and especially at the Federal level. It can be argued that regulation of commerce is one of the primary motivations for the creation of the Constitution after the Articles of Confederation failed, partly due to a lack of power to regulate commerce. Local governments have always, and will always have the right to deny anything not specifically granted as a right not to be abridged under the Constitution, and those rights are few in number, very famous, and do not include the right to buy a happy meal.
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