@tormentos: if you read farther it says it can have the same on package memory as the xbox one. You the one the idiot but you will see im really tired of fighting with you cowboys its really waste of time. Just sit back and ride this multiplat 1080p wave because that's the only thing the ps4 got going for it.

@ReadingRainbow4: sounds like i dug into some skin this morning. I never said anything about graphical upgrades or anything i said how it pertain to the reason why its helping the pc benefit from dx12 more ......and the reason is that pcs are changing they whole architecture to take full use of dx12 and the xbox already has what it need to fully use dx12 .....only yall cowboys and fake pc or closet cowboys had a problem and didn't even read the post.

@lostrib: ISS KILLZONE KNACK

FORZA 5 DR3 RYSE

out of them games which system is doing more physics,more AI, more NPCs and more heavy compute?

Thats the evidence.

ps4 10gb bidirectional xbox 15gb bidirectional

ps4 1.6ghz xbox 1.75ghz

ps4 2 operation per core with a total of 16 operations a sec.

xbox one 6 operations per core with a total of 48 operations.

These are the reasons that you see less physics, AI, and NPCs on the ps4 games and heavy compute games such as Unity.

Well the ps4 has 4cu for gpgpu compute but you can use it for some physics but never for AI and NPCs. With no offloading heavy compute games will continue to struggle on the ps4.

Forza5 and h2 was able to offload the AI to the cloud Unity could have did the same on the xbox.With new API cores workload will be speaded evenly is going to even bigger this for the CPU.

@tormentos: Torm you are stupid and have no idea what you are talking about. The stacked memory is the same as the carrizo ON PACKAGED MEMORY MADE BY THE SAME PEOPLE you can deny it all you want.

I/O 1024gbs 4 STACKS

You keep pasting that old shit but they havent said nothing else about it since feb of last year. Why would you ditched your most powerful APU gddr5 heaven that is the ps4 to constantly work with the so called weak one then change they whole way of thinking just for 32mb of esram on a 7790? You only playing yourself.

@scottpsfan14: how is it weaker hardware? You all have to understand where the industry is going. And do we ever even mention PS4 when it comes to where the industry going? NO AMD were to put an APU similar to the PS4 where is it, it never going to come. AMD and NVIDIA are moving to similar archs as the xbox and not the ps4. Right on time for dx12? the xbox already have the hardware and still improving the software.

AA and Af is really poor but that's it. Its lighting is more natural than fh2 but I think h2 has better overall look to it.

@lostrib: i have not made one claim them are facts and even if i had copy and paste the evidence we would still be having the conversation so just go search yourself.

@lostrib: so them are not evidence? Do I have to spoon feed you? Or you a big boy that can get his own food?

@GoldenElementXL: man there are way more things going on in Ryse technically that ISS its not really even a contest really. ISS AA and Lighting is the only advancements in the game the rest is last gen uprezed.