Ok this is really getting annoying.. Ok I have played some pc games.but unless you spend over 100 bucks in a 4 year period on graphics cards and upgrades your pc will begin to play like crap.. I have been playing true video games meaning true I mean on a system that when you ask what gaming systems do you have the employee will say wii, xbox 360,or ps3 and they will not say pc.. trust me there are some people in the world who look at a computer for what it is... A COMPUTER.. its not a game system.. yeah cheap people stick to pcs because they can hack their way through video games.. downloading illegal copies of games, and free copies of almost anything.. getting out of buy what should be paid for. Well pc fanboys.. I do know that being that all pc games are no roms.. they could never equal up to the quality of a blue ray, nor hd game.. that I can prove.. just go look up the best upgraded pc you can find and then compare that with either a ps3 or xbox360 can can promise you that the pc will lose in speed and graphics quality.. the game consoles you don't have to install games well specifically on xbox360 anyway.. and on pc the games are less detailed and have like NO textures.. I noticed this on L4D 1 and 2 there is no ATI or any graphics cards or anything even out that can compare to either ps3 or xbox360s graphics not speed.. there will always be a time where the game will either have a lag or slow frame on a pc but rarely on a console... and it's a fact yeah you have obsolete hardware on a console, but in the same area you don't have to do anything to a console to make the graphics better.. they are still and always will be better than a pc and on that area the ps3 has more power than 7 computers.. oh none of those fanboys remembered that.. that being said before the ps3 came out...the ps3 is the most powerful machine in existance a store bought pc with ANY graphics card or any processor can't even compary to a ps3 and not to mention the ps3 you can just pick up from a store has more memory than any pc or laptop you can buy unless you upgrade it... consoles own.. and ALWAYS WILL... OH YEAH DON'T forget all the best games are more popular on consoles.. compare the people playing games out on both xbox360 and pc on the same games.. the xbox360 has almost double.. and the best games are already out for a console and just buy the game and without a graphics card.. don't spend 1000+ dollars on a pc while you can pay not even 400 for a better experience and the controller is more accurate .. you don't have buy a special mouse AND keyboard.. this 1 controller plays ALL games.. and on a console the quality changes on differnt tvs or montors.. in a pc game the graphics stay the same.. .... YOU KNOW WHY.. because cd roms only have standard definition.. so take your pic on blue ray or hd and play a ps3 or xbox360 and get the best out of games and not worry about lag or trashy servers on a pc... Don't be a geek... be a gamer