I was promised a good read. :evil:mjarantilla

Same. I shone UV light on it and still couldn't find it...

Wario, of course.

GTA has amazing story. And GTA games requires a lot of hours to beat because it has so many missions and that's not even including the sandbox side missions. I'm not sure how much more descriptive can I get. The fact that even 1 minute minigame would make a 1 hour seem like an eternity.

Sports games are quite casual. I'd agree to that. Racing games, not really. Gran Turismo had me playing 1 hour races to complete the whole game. Wangan Midnight has an 80 stage storyline to beat. Obviously, racing games can be hardcore, takes lots of skills, but there are a lot of casual racers.

Those FPS are extremely hardcore. The purpose of a story is to get you into the game. Those online FPS use fast paced competition to do that. And you require too much skill to be competitive.

NobuoMusicMaker

Are you kidding me? The Teletubbies tells a better story than that unispired wannabe-gangster crap.

Seeing this term thrown around a lot makes me wonder how do you even mix up minigame casual with normal casual.

We seen games like GTA, God of War, World of Warcraft.

Defining casual in terms of these games are by being able to achieve a reward (fun) in a short amount of time, having a lot of save points or easy ways to make the game accessible to stopping at any point, and easy to learn the gameplay mechanics. You also get plenty of health packs or unlimited continues, or none or very little penalty when dead.

Of course, these are considered casual games, but yet they retain the qualities of a hardcore criteria. They still have amazing story/lore depth, a length of time required to beat the entire game, and you have to exercise some sort of skill to beat the game.

Now we have minigame casual. The new casual brought up by the DS and the Wii.

To name some, it would be Wii sports, Wario Ware, Mario Party, Rayman Raving Rabbids.

It should retain the same casual term as above. But where it fall short is keeping the good hardcore qualities of a game. Most of them are 30s to a minute long, the game is done in practically hours, and everyone can enjoy it because there was no challenge.

So there you go. Minigame casual is the most extreme of extreme casuals in existence. Some of SW would try to compare Wii casuals to PS2 casuals when they are immensily different. PS2 casual games have so much depth, so much length, that Wii casual games don't compare.

So don't mix up the two.

NobuoMusicMaker

The words "clutching" and "straws" come to mind.

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[QUOTE="****"]I don't know why a lot of people vote for Samus, maybe because the picture shows nips popping out? Tifa is definitely the best-RPGamer-

Samus is the only "woman" on Nintendo consoles. Therefore, all sheep automatically vote for her.

They got Peach and Zelda (relative "woman-ness" questionable)

I actually find Peach pretty hot (especially in the Mario Football games) and I can't really understand why she was never a candidate in the first place. Samus is beautiful though, she wins (personally, I think we also need more videogame ladies from more ethnic backgrounds, as many are white women. Not complaining though).

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Wario. I remember when they invented this guy I was like UUUUGGGGGGGHHHHH OMG clown shoes stupid version of Mario. I hope this dies a horrible death soon.

Then he became "the classic" Mario enemy and everyone basically forgot about Bowser..........  

Jandurin

I'm a Wario - I'm a gonna weeeen!

I so disagree with you. Wario is AMAZING. Anyway, my vote goes to Slippy Toad from Starfox. Everytime I see him, I want to smack his stupid face (and voice) into a pit of hell.