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#1 Xander7756
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[QUOTE="Ish_basic"]

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

I agree. If it happened on Gamespot (second time in their career, I might as well add) or IGN or someplace bigger than Examiner.com, then it would most certainly be a MAJOR deal for a lot of people to come to grips with. Seeing that it came from Examiner.com is considered minor news at best, I suppose.

Metamania

It wouldn't be suprising, though. Developers and publishers are your source for pretty much all your content as a gaming journalist. Good luck getting press passes, interviews, review copies, etc after you burn them. Small sites are especially susceptible to this kind of pressure, but even larger sites like this one would struggle if they played too much hardball with industry insiders.

Yeah, that's a good point. Once you're a gaming journalist, you have a lot of connections with both developer and publishers. Do something wrong, however, and your bridges are pretty much burned with them. So it's definitely a struggle that everyone in the gaming journalism business has to put up with if they wish to keep on going with their jobs.

Yeah unless this system changes, then journalists will always be under the thumb of developers and publishers. Someone else wrote they need each other equally, but that's only true if 100% of the journalists have integrity. I'd say it's probably at 10% so if you stand up for what you actually believe in and write your true opinion, they have no hesitation of cutting you off because there's many other journalists out there willing to just say good things to get free stuff they can turn to. So while journalists SHOULD have an equal amount of power, they do not exercise this power as a whole and many are simply mouthpieces for publishers and developers. The only way this would change is it review copies are abolished. It should be up to the publication to buy and provide review copies of games to its writers. Then the writer has no obligation to maintain contacts with game industry PR and will feel free to write what they really think.
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#2 Xander7756
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So you came here now after being banned from GAF? I guess that this time you were smart enough not to mention that it was you that wrote the article.

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First of all, I posted here prior to posting there. Second of all, I didn't make the thread there, someone else did. Third of all, it was never a secret there who I was. The reason I was banned was for saying the numbers in the article are from verifiable sources. Here is the last post I made: http://penguinrungames.com/images/neogafbanned.png Yeah that looks like a legit ban right?
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#3 Xander7756
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Alex Hinkley appeared on the HipHopGamer Show today where he talks about how Examiner.com fired him for an article criticizing overspending in the gaming industry and blaming six figure salaries of developers for rising production costs. Developers and publishers demanded he be fired and Examiner.com obliged. Should publishers and developers have this sort of power over gaming journalists? 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_ckkZ_HbQ

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I remember reading that article, it was pretty much the joke of the day for anyone involved in the gaming industry (developers, indies, publishers, reviewers, website editors, internet celebs, etc). Yeah, that probably should have gotten him fired for sheer stupidity. He should have been fired for posting an incorrect, poorly written, idiotic article that was likely to upset people and bring (more) negative press for them, it never should have been approved in the first place.

 

Actually if you look at how many likes the article received compared to the "counter" article, it's like 9,000 to 1,000 in favor of the original. It was only a very vocal minority that didn't like it. Also, all the numbers are referenced at verifiable sources. If you are saying the article is stupid and poorly written, are you saying these sources' numbers are wrong? If so, you should probably take it up with them instead.

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A staff team reviews every single article after publication.

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#5 Xander7756
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Examiner is pretty low on the totem pole of websites for writing, so I'm not that shocked that this happened. It sucks for that writer, but building up your own blog is better then working for Examiner. I wonder if their pay has gotten any better, I know for the month that I tried them out, the pay scale was something like .05 cents per hit and you didn't get any money until about $20 or so.

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Their pay scale has actually been going down.

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Alex Hinkley appeared on the HipHopGamer Show today where he talks about how Examiner.com fired him for an article criticizing overspending in the gaming industry and blaming six figure salaries of developers for rising production costs. Developers and publishers demanded he be fired and Examiner.com obliged. Should publishers and developers have this sort of power over gaming journalists? 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_ckkZ_HbQ

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#7 Xander7756
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isn't gamefaq shutting down soon? lolk2theswiss

Are they? This is the first I've heard of that. Can you elaborate?

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#8 Xander7756
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What do you y'all make of this? http://www.examiner.com/article/gamefaqs-apparently-deleting-negative-user-reviews

Was the review honest or just a troll? Should GameFAQs have taken it down even after initially approving it or should they have left it as is?

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#9 Xander7756
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Hey all, I'm trying to get this article back up on N4G after they took it down thinking it was spam. It obviously wasn't considering it got Metacritic to at least acknowledge this error. I would appreciate any help you guys could give me on trying to get it listed on N4G once again. If you would like to help, please PM Catastrophe or Odion (on N4G) about this. Thanks!
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#10 Xander7756
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Just an update for everybody, Metacritic has added a note to the Alan Wake page that the user review score is false and will be zero'd before the game is released. Looks like we made a difference!
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