[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Apples and oranges. In those sorts of situations, the following differences apply: 1. We're trying to project power a half a world away rather than our own backyard. (Think of how easy it is to book a direct flight to New York vs. Tehran.) 2. We were going out of our way to be as humanitarian as possible and minimize civilian casualties. Let's focus on the 2nd point, even though the 1st one is just as valid. We're hypothesizing a TYRANNICAL REGIME BENT ON MERCILESS OPPRESSION. In that hypothetical, it opens up a whole range of options that didn't exist before. If I was a tyrannical dictator in charge of the U.S. military, I could erase the entirety of the state of New York within about five minutes time. Remember, in this hypothetical, I'm under no moral restrictions to try and be a nice guy. I probably had Dave killed a few minutes ago because I didn't like his haircut. Again, if we're talking about a truly tyrannical U.S. government with the resources it has at it's disposal an infinite amount of assault rifles means precisely dick.nocoolnamejim
I agree that nuclear annihilation would be impossible to prevent if the military and its constituent members went along with the whole plot (unlikely, even members of the military aren't going to sit buy and watch their families burn in nuclear fire), but aside from that 300 million pissed off people are going to be hard to take down.
Realistically speaking, if such an event did occur, you'd have to except whole divisions of the military defecting (it happens, look at recent history in the M.E. and North Africa), so it wouldn't be just citizens vs. the whole of the military.
It would be a bloody awful mess no matter what.
*graphic story about rape and blah blah blah I think you are underestimating how easy it would be to disrupt this current military using just any small and dedicated force. Hell it would only take one rouge nuclear sub crew to eliminate nukes from the question. Once MAD is ensured, it all comes down to counter-insurgency tactics that this current military hasn't even come close to mastering.
Carpet bombing whole neighborhoods is the anti-thesis to a counter-insurgency strategy. If the person is just committed to killing as many people as possible in you're example than how would to ever expect to win by using those brute force tactics. Look at Assad right now is Syria, he's killed a bunch of people but the writing is on the wall, he will not win that conflict.
The second innocent people are getting droned and bombed that will only embolden and strengthen any resistence efforts. Very much in the same way that for every one "terrorist" we kill we create 10 more in Pakistan, it would be similar here if not more so.
Would it be absolute hell on Earth for everyone in this country? Sure. Would there be countless casualities? Undoubtedly. But to be so naive to think that this military or government is unstoppable ignores history and is shortsighted.
That being said, there are enough safeguards before the second amendment that none of this would ever come to bear, but in the unlikely event that it did. I sure as shít would rather have a gun than no gun.
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